From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from 1wt.eu (ded1.1wt.eu [163.172.96.212]) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D7014A82; Thu, 20 Feb 2025 15:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=163.172.96.212 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1740066796; cv=none; b=mXKHgICy4gteW2B1s4u8rIrULnZV+Xf8OikH5OoXJdThb1AFo/aEh5ef6pzvY08j5SXolpEAh9xiBaFxLdzHlvoMZvKTmjgl053tGaQ6gZHJLeysi9d7bGXXHw2htlnqqmdwcHnUNOKLyN5+NqJhuqqooEN95hKYm0FcelwmKRY= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1740066796; c=relaxed/simple; bh=k27A0ZEoTITv/+qTr8An/1tIJzsKgrmcslb/obw9cWg=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=SXhLu462Sk1spLkiw7cejaOVC9QURbE8j7UPi3XVpBp3pnUQBn0+QzS0elUCs4ahtRmccQl5Zo2OLPu2Ns1/ZQYsZmFlpXKWcvHysnzULhyzoE3PRs/2NvbYZ7CuK9bQppkm0vprJcdMfSwQIMifyNMbfQk8v2Y6yEpF00KlxNc= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=1wt.eu; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=1wt.eu; arc=none smtp.client-ip=163.172.96.212 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=1wt.eu Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=1wt.eu Received: (from willy@localhost) by pcw.home.local (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 51KFnfo7032530; Thu, 20 Feb 2025 16:49:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 16:49:41 +0100 From: Willy Tarreau To: Martin Uecker Cc: Dan Carpenter , Greg KH , Boqun Feng , "H. Peter Anvin" , Miguel Ojeda , Christoph Hellwig , rust-for-linux , Linus Torvalds , David Airlie , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Justin Stitt , Kees Cook Subject: Re: Rust kernel policy Message-ID: <20250220154941.GB31777@1wt.eu> References: <326CC09B-8565-4443-ACC5-045092260677@zytor.com> <2025021954-flaccid-pucker-f7d9@gregkh> <4e316b01634642cf4fbb087ec8809d93c4b7822c.camel@tugraz.at> <2025022024-blooper-rippling-2667@gregkh> <1d43700546b82cf035e24d192e1f301c930432a3.camel@tugraz.at> <962fa158-5315-4d93-afb1-8a1c08787ad8@stanley.mountain> <1f31a16d3898e0e9b5d94f9bcc12a1b73ac97982.camel@tugraz.at> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1f31a16d3898e0e9b5d94f9bcc12a1b73ac97982.camel@tugraz.at> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 03:09:21PM +0100, Martin Uecker wrote: > In general, if people have good ideas what compilers or the language > standard can do to help, please talk to us. It is possible to > improve compilers and/or the language itself. I'm keeping that offer in mind, as I regularly face in userland many of the issues that are manually addressed in the kernel. The problem clearly is both the language and the compilers, we can improve things and I know that you need some feedback on this. Thanks, Willy