From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Meta kernel team <kernel-team@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 10/10] memcg: no more irq disabling for stock locks
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 17:42:34 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250314164234.KHdt_CWt@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2c62mvfo4726x3ci3sze7u55encoycbbzbaatzslkbhur2dkvd@wlli7wrcjlik>
On 2025-03-14 08:55:51 [-0700], Shakeel Butt wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 12:58:02PM +0100, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > On 2025-03-14 11:54:34 [+0100], Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> > > On 3/14/25 07:15, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > > > Let's switch all memcg_stock locks acquire and release places to not
> > > > disable and enable irqs. There are two still functions (i.e.
> > > > mod_objcg_state() and drain_obj_stock) which needs to disable irqs to
> > > > update the stats on non-RT kernels. For now add a simple wrapper for
> > > > that functionality.
> > >
> > > BTW, which part of __mod_objcg_mlstate() really needs disabled irqs and not
> > > just preemption? I see it does rcu_read_lock() anyway, which disables
> > > preemption. Then in __mod_memcg_lruvec_state() we do some __this_cpu_add()
> > > updates. I think these also are fine with just disabled preemption as they
> > > are atomic vs irqs (but don't need LOCK prefix to be atomic vs other cpus
> > > updates).
> >
> > __this_cpu_add() is not safe if also used in interrupt context. Some
> > architectures (not x86) implemented as read, add, write.
> > this_cpu_add()() does the same but disables interrupts during the
> > operation.
> > So __this_cpu_add() should not be used if interrupts are not disabled
> > and a modification can happen from interrupt context.
>
> So, if I use this_cpu_add() instead of __this_cpu_add() in
> __mod_memcg_state(), __mod_memcg_lruvec_state(), __count_memcg_events()
> then I can call these functions without disabling interrupts. Also
> this_cpu_add() does not disable interrupts for x86 and arm64, correct?
> For x86 and arm64, can I assume that the cost of this_cpu_add() is the
> same as __this_cpu_add()?
on arm64, __this_cpu_add will "load, add, store". preemptible.
this_cpu_add() will "disable preemption, atomic-load, add, atomic-store or
start over with atomic-load. if succeeded enable preemption and move an"
so no, this is not the same. On x86 it is possible to increment a memory
value directly with one opcode so you get preempted either before or
after that operation.
Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-14 16:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-14 6:15 [RFC PATCH 00/10] memcg: stock code cleanups Shakeel Butt
2025-03-14 6:15 ` [RFC PATCH 01/10] memcg: remove root memcg check from refill_stock Shakeel Butt
2025-03-14 6:15 ` [RFC PATCH 02/10] memcg: decouple drain_obj_stock from local stock Shakeel Butt
2025-03-14 9:57 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-03-14 6:15 ` [RFC PATCH 03/10] memcg: introduce memcg_uncharge Shakeel Butt
2025-03-14 10:01 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-03-14 6:15 ` [RFC PATCH 04/10] memcg: manually inline __refill_stock Shakeel Butt
2025-03-14 10:05 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-03-14 6:15 ` [RFC PATCH 05/10] memcg: no refilling stock from obj_cgroup_release Shakeel Butt
2025-03-14 10:09 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-03-14 11:26 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-03-14 15:25 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-14 6:15 ` [RFC PATCH 06/10] memcg: do obj_cgroup_put inside drain_obj_stock Shakeel Butt
2025-03-14 10:17 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-03-14 11:35 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-03-14 15:29 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-14 6:15 ` [RFC PATCH 07/10] memcg: use __mod_memcg_state in drain_obj_stock Shakeel Butt
2025-03-14 10:27 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-03-14 11:44 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-03-14 11:38 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-03-14 6:15 ` [RFC PATCH 08/10] memcg: assert in_task for couple of local_lock holders Shakeel Butt
2025-03-14 6:15 ` [RFC PATCH 09/10] memcg: trylock stock for objcg Shakeel Butt
2025-03-14 11:47 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-03-14 15:33 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-14 6:15 ` [RFC PATCH 10/10] memcg: no more irq disabling for stock locks Shakeel Butt
2025-03-14 10:54 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-03-14 11:58 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-03-14 15:55 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-14 16:42 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2025-03-14 17:02 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-14 17:38 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-14 18:19 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-03-14 13:33 ` [RFC PATCH 00/10] memcg: stock code cleanups Vlastimil Babka
2025-03-14 16:03 ` Shakeel Butt
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