From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>,
x86@kernel.org, hkrzesin@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
hpa@zytor.com, olichtne@redhat.com, atomasov@redhat.com,
aokuliar@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: handle the tail in rep_movs_alternative() with an overlapping store
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 20:47:23 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250321204723.1e21cb23@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjxi0poUzCd666Kx5wCjgOwN5v=-zG8xSAL7Wj_ax8Zvw@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 16:53:32 -0700
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 at 14:17, Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 at 12:33, Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a recollection that handling the tail after rep movsq with an
> > > overlapping store was suffering a penalty big enough to warrant a
> > > "normal" copy instead, avoiding the just written to area.
> >
> > Ahh. Good point. The rep movsq might indeed end up having odd effects
> > with subsequent aliasing memory operations.
> >
> > Consider myself convinced.
>
> Actually, I think there's a solution for this.
>
> Do not do the last 0-7 bytes as a word that overlaps with the tail of
> the 'rep movs'
>
> Do the last 8-15 bytes *non-overlapping* (well, they overlap each
> other, but not the 'rep movs')
>
> Something UNTESTED like the appended, in other words. The large case
> then ends up without any conditionals, looking something like this:
>
> mov %rcx,%rax
> shr $0x3,%rcx
> dec %rcx
> and $0x7,%eax
> rep movsq %ds:(%rsi),%es:(%rdi)
> mov (%rsi),%rcx
> mov %rcx,(%rdi)
> mov (%rsi,%rax,1),%rcx
> mov %rcx,(%rdi,%rax,1)
> xor %ecx,%ecx
> ret
I think you can save the 'tail end' copying the same 8 bytes twice by doing:
sub $9,%rcx
mov %rcx,%rax
shr $3,%rcx
and $7,%rax
inc %rax
before the 'rep movsq'.
David
>
> with some added complexity - but not a lot - in the exception fixup cases.
>
> This is once again intentionally whitespace-damaged, because I don't
> want people applying this mindlessly. Somebody needs to double-check
> my logic, and verify that this also avoids the cost from the aliasing
> with the rep movs.
>
> Linus
...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-21 20:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-20 19:05 Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-20 19:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-20 19:33 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-20 20:24 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-22 12:02 ` David Laight
2025-03-20 21:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-20 23:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-21 20:10 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-21 20:47 ` David Laight [this message]
2025-03-25 22:42 ` Herton Krzesinski
2025-03-25 22:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-26 22:45 ` David Laight
2025-03-26 22:59 ` Mateusz Guzik
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