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From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	 "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] release_task: kill the no longer needed get/put_pid(thread_pid)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 09:35:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250415-haare-kroch-2c11f03bd81d@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGudoHGi6yZNDVzA1coEu5t4NB_PB51wo1tJmKV0f=mxzWs=0w@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 11:26:35PM +0200, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 10:46 PM Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> > I'd prefer to move add_device_randomness() after release_thread(),
> > but perhaps this needs another minor cleanup?
> >
> 
> I have no opinion on that front. As far as cosmetics go I would not
> touch it past the nit I mentioned in my previous e-mail, but I'm not
> going to protest any other changes.
> 
> imo the real thing to do concerning the routine is to figure out if
> the call is even of any benefit -- it very well may be this is call is
> only there because nobody with random-fu bothered to remove it.
> Personally I have epsilon knowledge of that area, so I'm not even
> going to try to evaluate it. But it would be nice if someone(tm)
> reached out to random folk concerning it. Worst case, even if it still
> has to be there, maybe the sucker can trylock and bail. It does
> contribute to contention, likely for no good reason.

Afaict, add_device_randomness() cannot block. So why can't we just move
this into put_task_struct_rcu_user() (or some variant that's local to
kernel/exit.c)? I see no reason why this would need to be done
synchronously?

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-15  7:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-11 12:18 Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-11 12:33 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-14 11:42 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-14 19:39 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-14 19:45   ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-14 19:54     ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-14 20:45       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-14 21:26         ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-15  7:35           ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2025-04-15  8:29             ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-14 20:39     ` Oleg Nesterov

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