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From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Attila Szasz <szasza.contact@gmail.com>
Cc: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	cve@kernel.org, linux-cve-announce@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: REJECTED: CVE-2025-0927: heap overflow in the hfs and hfsplus filesystems with manually crafted filesystem
Date: Fri, 9 May 2025 10:17:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250509141715.GC92783@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6191c255-84cc-4721-91d1-1884472989f7@gmail.com>

On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 03:18:19PM +0200, Attila Szasz wrote:
> 
> Since then, I saw Canonical folks mention that they wanted to
> allocate a new one but needed to obfuscate the description so it no
> longer sounds like a kernel bug.

Sure, it's an automounter bug; or an fsck bug, assuming that their
system is running fsck -y on the file system before trying to mount
the file system.

> Which, incidentally, is not quite true either, it *is* a kernel bug.
> 
> Since then I checked, and 5.4 LTS (any<=5.6) had been vulnerable without
> the need to ever mount an untrusted/malformed FS just by systematically
> corrupting a vanilla fs's B-trees with normal operations.

So if you can come up with a reproducer that *starts* with a valid
file system which passes fsck, and then using normal, non-root
operations, you can corrupt the file system and then trigger a kernel
crash or some vulnerability, then that's a valid security bug in my
opinion.  I'll certainly treat it that way for ext4.

But you need to demonstrate this using a reproducer that doesn't start
with a fuzzed file system.  In my experience, this rules out 99% of
syzbot bugs reported against ext4.  But if you can come up with such a
reproducer, send the POC to the file system developer, and ask them to
address it.  If it's against ext4, I'll get on it right away.

> There was also a logic issue I wrote about that hasn't been
> patched, since hfs_brec_find() can return with -ENOENT, and
> hfsplus_create_attr did not treat ENOENT as a problem when
> inserting records, resulting in a flow completely missing the
> only boundary checks that were present earlier. With the issue
> that commit 25efb2f patched upstream and another issue I found,
> the condition for the rejection is no longer true.
> The image to begin with is not even corrupt.

Great, but that's not this CVE.  Note that it was entitled "... with
manually crafted filesystem"

						- Ted

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-05-09 14:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <2025040820-REJECTED-6695@gregkh>
2025-05-09  7:20 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-05-09  7:34   ` Greg KH
2025-05-09  7:47     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-05-09  7:55       ` Greg KH
2025-05-09  8:03         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-05-09 12:10           ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-05-09 13:18             ` Attila Szasz
2025-05-09 13:37               ` Greg KH
2025-05-09 14:17               ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2025-05-12 13:22             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-05-12 14:44               ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-05-12 17:17                 ` Attila Szasz
2025-05-13  7:09                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-05-13 12:05                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-05-13 16:09                     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-05-13 21:43                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-05-14  4:53                         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-05-21  8:20         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-05-23 12:51           ` Greg KH
2025-05-09 14:05       ` Theodore Ts'o

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