From: Max Kellermann <max.kellermann@ionos.com>
To: ebiederm@xmission.com, serge@hallyn.com, paul@paul-moore.com,
jmorris@namei.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Max Kellermann <max.kellermann@ionos.com>
Subject: [PATCH] Documentation/no_new_privs.rst: document dropping effective ids
Date: Fri, 9 May 2025 20:41:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250509184105.840928-1-max.kellermann@ionos.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h61t7siv.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org>
Usually, execve() preserves the effective ids. Many programs rely on
this to detect setuid/setgid execution and will disable certain
features (such as rejecting certain user input / environment
variables).
However, if NO_NEW_PRIVS is set, effective ids are always reset by
cap_bprm_creds_from_file(), but capabilities are not revoked. That
means the process looks like it's not setuid/setgid, but has full
capabilities, and is effectively a superuser process. This breaks
userspace assumptions.
It was argued [1] that this surprising behavior must not change
because programs might rely on it:
Of course, this leaves many programs vulnerable, but if we decide the
behavior must remain, we should at least document it with a warning.
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/87h61t7siv.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org/
Signed-off-by: Max Kellermann <max.kellermann@ionos.com>
---
Documentation/userspace-api/no_new_privs.rst | 6 ++++++
1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
diff --git a/Documentation/userspace-api/no_new_privs.rst b/Documentation/userspace-api/no_new_privs.rst
index d060ea217ea1..89b0884991e9 100644
--- a/Documentation/userspace-api/no_new_privs.rst
+++ b/Documentation/userspace-api/no_new_privs.rst
@@ -29,6 +29,12 @@ bits will no longer change the uid or gid; file capabilities will not
add to the permitted set, and LSMs will not relax constraints after
execve.
+A successful execve call with ``no_new_privs`` will reset the
+effective uid/gid to the real uid/gid, but does not drop capabilities.
+This means that comparing effective and real ids is not a valid method
+to detect setuid/setgid execution; the proper way to do that is
+getauxval(AT_SECURE).
+
To set ``no_new_privs``, use::
prctl(PR_SET_NO_NEW_PRIVS, 1, 0, 0, 0);
--
2.47.2
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-09 18:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-06 8:26 [PATCH] security/commoncap: don't assume "setid" if all ids are identical Max Kellermann
2025-03-07 10:32 ` kernel test robot
2025-03-09 15:19 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-28 11:43 ` Max Kellermann
2025-05-06 13:21 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-05-06 14:51 ` Max Kellermann
2025-05-07 3:16 ` Andrew G. Morgan
2025-05-07 6:33 ` Max Kellermann
2025-05-08 3:32 ` Andrew G. Morgan
2025-05-08 6:38 ` Max Kellermann
2025-05-08 8:37 ` Max Kellermann
2025-05-09 17:50 ` Max Kellermann
2025-05-08 22:12 ` sergeh
2025-05-09 6:15 ` Max Kellermann
2025-05-09 14:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-05-09 16:53 ` Max Kellermann
2025-05-09 20:17 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-05-09 18:41 ` Max Kellermann [this message]
2025-05-15 16:24 ` [PATCH] exec: Correct the permission check for unsafe exec Eric W. Biederman
2025-05-15 22:09 ` Kees Cook
2025-05-16 15:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-05-16 18:06 ` Jann Horn
2025-05-16 18:08 ` Jann Horn
2025-05-16 21:46 ` sergeh
2025-05-20 22:38 ` Jann Horn
2025-05-20 22:43 ` Kees Cook
2025-05-16 23:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-05-20 20:20 ` Kees Cook
2025-05-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2] " Eric W. Biederman
2025-05-20 22:35 ` Kees Cook
2025-05-20 23:53 ` Jann Horn
2025-05-21 15:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-05-21 15:36 ` Jann Horn
2025-06-11 0:18 ` Paul Moore
2025-06-11 14:23 ` Max Kellermann
2025-06-13 15:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-06-12 21:26 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-06-13 1:48 ` Kees Cook
2025-06-13 15:28 ` Paul Moore
2025-06-16 19:57 ` Kees Cook
2025-06-16 20:16 ` Paul Moore
2025-05-16 21:48 ` [PATCH] " sergeh
2025-05-16 21:49 ` sergeh
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