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From: Nam Cao <namcao@linutronix.de>
To: Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	john.ogness@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 20/22] rv: Add rtapp_sleep monitor
Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 09:04:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250519070425.xDEPNyBe@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <06d48208-686a-4d33-95ca-4e4d5991a42f@redhat.com>

On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 04:31:03PM +0000, Gabriele Monaco wrote:
> 2025-05-12T10:56:30Z Nam Cao <namcao@linutronix.de>:
> > diff --git a/kernel/trace/rv/monitors/sleep/Kconfig b/kernel/trace/rv/monitors/sleep/Kconfig
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 000000000000..d00aa1aae069
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/kernel/trace/rv/monitors/sleep/Kconfig
> > @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@
> > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-only
> > +#
> > +config RV_MON_SLEEP
> > +   depends on RV
> > +   select RV_LTL_MONITOR
> > +   depends on HAVE_SYSCALL_TRACEPOINTS
> > +   depends on RV_MON_RTAPP
> > +   select TRACE_IRQFLAGS
> 
> I had a different approach towards those (the preemptirq tracepoints)
> under the assumption adding them introduces latency. Besides me picking
> the wrong config (I used IRQSOFF, I'll fix that) I considered the monitor
> should /depend/ on the tracepoint instead of select it.
>
> This way it looks easier to me to avoid making a change that introduces
> latency slip in when distribution maintainers enable the monitor (e.g.
> TRACE_IRQFLAGS may be enabled on debug kernels and using depends would
> automatically prevent the monitor on non-debug kernels).
> 
> Now is this concern justified? Is it only a performance issue for the
> preempt tracepoint or not even there?  I'd like to keep consistency but I
> really can't decide on which approach is better.

Both approach is fine, I don't have a strong preference.

I doubt that the distribution people would carelessly enable anything new,
and these monitors are disabled by default. So I wouldn't worry too much.

I will do some measurements on the runtime impact of having these monitors
built, so that there will be a recommendation whether to enable them in
distribution kernel. But for now, just like any other debug configs, people
should expect some performance hit.

> Also curiosity on my side (I didn't try), you require TRACE_IRQFLAGS to
> use hardirq_context but how different is it from in_hardirq() in your
> case?

There is a wake_timersd() in __irq_exit_rcu(). This is a wakeup performed
within interrupt handling, but in_hardirq() doesn't say that.

Best regards,
Nam

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-19  7:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-12 10:50 [PATCH v8 00/22] RV: Linear temporal logic monitors for RT application Nam Cao
2025-05-12 10:50 ` [PATCH v8 01/22] rv: Add #undef TRACE_INCLUDE_FILE Nam Cao
2025-05-12 10:50 ` [PATCH v8 02/22] printk: Make vprintk_deferred() public Nam Cao
2025-05-12 10:50 ` [PATCH v8 03/22] panic: Add vpanic() Nam Cao
2025-05-12 10:50 ` [PATCH v8 04/22] rv: Let the reactors take care of buffers Nam Cao
2025-05-12 10:50 ` [PATCH v8 05/22] verification/dot2k: Make a separate dot2k_templates/Kconfig_container Nam Cao
2025-05-12 10:50 ` [PATCH v8 06/22] verification/dot2k: Remove __buff_to_string() Nam Cao
2025-05-12 10:50 ` [PATCH v8 07/22] verification/dot2k: Replace is_container() hack with subparsers Nam Cao
2025-05-12 10:50 ` [PATCH v8 08/22] rv: rename CONFIG_DA_MON_EVENTS to CONFIG_RV_MON_EVENTS Nam Cao
2025-05-12 10:50 ` [PATCH v8 09/22] verification/dot2k: Prepare the frontend for LTL inclusion Nam Cao
2025-05-12 10:50 ` [PATCH v8 10/22] Documentation/rv: Prepare monitor synthesis document " Nam Cao
2025-05-12 10:50 ` [PATCH v8 11/22] verification/rvgen: Restructure the templates files Nam Cao
2025-05-12 10:50 ` [PATCH v8 12/22] verification/rvgen: Restructure the classes to prepare for LTL inclusion Nam Cao
2025-05-12 10:50 ` [PATCH v8 13/22] rv: Add support for LTL monitors Nam Cao
2025-05-12 10:50 ` [PATCH v8 14/22] rv: Add rtapp container monitor Nam Cao
2025-05-12 10:50 ` [PATCH v8 15/22] x86/tracing: Remove redundant trace_pagefault_key Nam Cao
2025-05-12 10:50 ` [PATCH v8 16/22] x86/tracing: Move page fault trace points to generic Nam Cao
2025-05-12 10:51 ` [PATCH v8 17/22] arm64: mm: Add page fault trace points Nam Cao
2025-05-19 14:49   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-05-20 12:25     ` Nam Cao
2025-05-20 14:15       ` Catalin Marinas
2025-05-21  9:03         ` Nam Cao
2025-05-12 10:51 ` [PATCH v8 18/22] riscv: " Nam Cao
2025-05-12 10:51 ` [PATCH v8 19/22] rv: Add rtapp_pagefault monitor Nam Cao
2025-05-12 10:51 ` [PATCH v8 20/22] rv: Add rtapp_sleep monitor Nam Cao
2025-05-16 16:31   ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-05-19  7:04     ` Nam Cao [this message]
2025-05-19  7:54       ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-05-12 10:51 ` [PATCH v8 21/22] rv: Add documentation for rtapp monitor Nam Cao
2025-05-12 10:51 ` [PATCH v8 22/22] rv: Allow to configure the number of per-task monitor Nam Cao
2025-05-16  8:21 ` [PATCH v8 00/22] RV: Linear temporal logic monitors for RT application Ingo Molnar
2025-05-16  8:55   ` Nam Cao
2025-05-16  9:07     ` Nam Cao
2025-05-16  9:12     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-08-10 21:12 ` patchwork-bot+linux-riscv

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