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From: Leo Yan <leo.yan@arm.com>
To: James Clark <james.clark@linaro.org>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/10] perf: arm_spe: Add support for filtering on data source
Date: Wed, 21 May 2025 10:51:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250521095154.GV412060@e132581.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5752f039-51c1-4452-b5df-03ff06da7be3@linaro.org>

On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 09:54:48AM +0100, James Clark wrote:
> On 20/05/2025 5:22 pm, Leo Yan wrote:

[...]

> I'm thinking I'd rather leave it consistent with PMSFCR_EL1.FT and
> automatically enable PMSFCR_EL1.FDS for any non zero data-source filter.

This is fine for me.

Just a minor thing, for the case PMSDSFR_EL1 = 0xFFFF,FFFF,FFFF,FFFF,
we might consider to clear the PMSFCR_EL1.FDS bit.  This would be a bit
performance benefit for disabling data source filter rather than
enabling the filter with unaffecting all data sources.

> This means we don't need a tool change to set some other flag when a filter
> is provided (even if it's zero) and it's much simpler. It also doesn't
> prevent the possibility of adding the enable flag in the future if someone
> comes out with a need for it, but I don't think it needs to be done now.

The question comes down to the complexity in user-space tools.

Perf initializes the attribute configs to zeros. If we want to set all
bits in config4 as a default value, we would need additional change
in the perf tool. Also initializing config4 to all ones is likely to
cause confusion if other tools want to enable the feature.

I agree that a cleaner way would be to use an enable flag + mask, we can
defer to add flag if needed.

> TBH I can't imagine a case where someone would want to filter out any samples
> that have any data source. Surely you'd only be looking for a selected set
> of data sources, or no filtering at all.

Agreed this is a rare case.

Thanks,
Leo

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-21  9:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-06 11:41 [PATCH 00/10] perf: arm_spe: Armv8.8 SPE features James Clark
2025-05-06 11:41 ` [PATCH 01/10] arm64: sysreg: Add new PMSIDR_EL1 and PMSFCR_EL1 fields James Clark
2025-05-16 14:38   ` Marc Zyngier
2025-05-19  8:16     ` James Clark
2025-05-06 11:41 ` [PATCH 02/10] perf: arm_spe: Support FEAT_SPEv1p4 filters James Clark
2025-05-20 10:07   ` Leo Yan
2025-05-06 11:41 ` [PATCH 03/10] perf: arm_spe: Add support for FEAT_SPE_EFT extended filtering James Clark
2025-05-20 10:35   ` Leo Yan
2025-05-06 11:41 ` [PATCH 04/10] arm64/boot: Enable EL2 requirements for SPE_FEAT_FDS James Clark
2025-05-20 11:04   ` Leo Yan
2025-05-20 13:21     ` James Clark
2025-05-06 11:41 ` [PATCH 05/10] KVM: arm64: Add trap configs for PMSDSFR_EL1 James Clark
2025-05-06 11:41 ` [PATCH 06/10] perf: Add perf_event_attr::config4 James Clark
2025-05-20 11:44   ` Leo Yan
2025-05-06 11:41 ` [PATCH 07/10] perf: arm_spe: Add support for filtering on data source James Clark
2025-05-20 11:43   ` Leo Yan
2025-05-20 13:24     ` James Clark
2025-05-20 13:46   ` Leo Yan
2025-05-20 15:00     ` James Clark
2025-05-20 16:10       ` Leo Yan
2025-05-20 16:22         ` Leo Yan
2025-05-21  8:54           ` James Clark
2025-05-21  9:51             ` Leo Yan [this message]
2025-05-06 11:41 ` [PATCH 08/10] tools headers UAPI: Sync linux/perf_event.h with the kernel sources James Clark
2025-05-06 11:41 ` [PATCH 09/10] perf tools: Add support for perf_event_attr::config4 James Clark
2025-05-20 13:18   ` Leo Yan
2025-05-06 11:41 ` [PATCH 10/10] perf docs: arm-spe: Document new SPE filtering features James Clark
2025-05-20 14:27   ` Leo Yan

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