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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@bytedance.com>
Cc: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	Josh Don <joshdon@google.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Xi Wang <xii@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
	Chuyi Zhou <zhouchuyi@bytedance.com>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Florian Bezdeka <florian.bezdeka@siemens.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] sched/fair: Take care of group/affinity/sched_class change for throttled task
Date: Fri, 23 May 2025 16:59:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250523145942.GL39944@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250522124840.GC672414@bytedance>

On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 08:49:43PM +0800, Aaron Lu wrote:
> On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 02:03:36PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

> > This is asymmetric -- dequeue removes it from that throttle list, but
> > the corresponding enqueue will not add it back, what gives?
> > 
> > Because now we have:
> > 
> >  p->on_rq=1
> >  p->throttle_node on list
> > 
> > move_queued_task()
> >   deactivate_task()
> >     dequeue_task_fair()
> >       list_del_init(throttle_node)
> >     p->on_rq = 2
> > 
> >   activate_task()
> >     enqueue_task_fair()
> >       // nothing special, makes the thing runnable
> >     p->on_rq = 1;
> > 
> > and we exit with a task that is on-rq and not throttled ?!?
> >
> > Why is this? Are we relying on pick_task_fair() to dequeue it again and
> > fix up our inconsistencies? If so, that had better have a comment on.
> 
> Correct.

But would it not be better to have enqueue bail when we're trying to
enqueue an already throttled task into a throttled cfs_rq?

It seems a waste to do the actual enqueue, pick, dequeue when we
could've just avoided all that.

The immediate problem seems to be that you destroy the
task_is_throttled() state on dequeue, but surely that is trivially
fixable by not keeping that state in the list.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-23 14:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-20 10:41 [PATCH 0/7] Defer throttle when task exits to user Aaron Lu
2025-05-20 10:41 ` [PATCH 1/7] sched/fair: Add related data structure for task based throttle Aaron Lu
2025-05-21  8:48   ` Chengming Zhou
2025-05-20 10:41 ` [PATCH 2/7] sched/fair: prepare throttle path " Aaron Lu
2025-05-20 12:02   ` Florian Bezdeka
2025-05-21  6:37     ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-21 11:51       ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-21  9:01   ` Chengming Zhou
2025-05-21  9:21     ` [External] " Aaron Lu
2025-05-22 11:43       ` Chengming Zhou
2025-05-23  8:03         ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-22 10:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-22 11:44     ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-22 11:54       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-22 12:40         ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-23  9:53           ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-23 10:52             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-23 11:17               ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-22 11:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-23  7:40     ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-29 11:51       ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-30  5:36         ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-05-30 11:02           ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-23 12:35   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-20 10:41 ` [PATCH 3/7] sched/fair: prepare unthrottle " Aaron Lu
2025-05-20 10:41 ` [PATCH 4/7] sched/fair: Take care of group/affinity/sched_class change for throttled task Aaron Lu
2025-05-22 12:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-22 12:49     ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-23 14:59       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2025-05-26 11:36         ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-27  6:58           ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-27 11:19             ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-05-27 11:54               ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-27 14:16                 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-05-23  2:43   ` Chengming Zhou
2025-05-23  7:56     ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-23  9:13       ` Chengming Zhou
2025-05-23  9:42         ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-23  9:53           ` Chengming Zhou
2025-05-23 11:59             ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-26 13:14               ` Chengming Zhou
2025-05-20 10:41 ` [PATCH 5/7] sched/fair: switch to task based throttle model Aaron Lu
2025-05-20 10:41 ` [PATCH 6/7] sched/fair: task based throttle time accounting Aaron Lu
2025-05-20 10:41 ` [PATCH 7/7] sched/fair: get rid of throttled_lb_pair() Aaron Lu

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