mirror of https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>
To: Song Liu <song@kernel.org>
Cc: "Alexei Starovoitov" <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	"Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>, "Al Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-Fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"LSM List" <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Kernel Team" <kernel-team@meta.com>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>, Eduard <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Martin KaFai Lau" <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	"Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>,
	"KP Singh" <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	"Matt Bobrowski" <mattbobrowski@google.com>,
	"Amir Goldstein" <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	repnop@google.com, "Jeff Layton" <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	"Josef Bacik" <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	"Günther Noack" <gnoack@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 3/4] bpf: Introduce path iterator
Date: Fri, 30 May 2025 16:20:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250530.oh5pahH9Nui9@digikod.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPhsuW78L8WUkKz8iJ1whrZ2gLJR+7Kh59eFrSXvrxP0DwMGig@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 10:05:59AM -0700, Song Liu wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 9:57 AM Alexei Starovoitov
> <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
> > >
> > > How about we describe this as:
> > >
> > > Introduce a path iterator, which safely (no crash) walks a struct path.
> > > Without malicious parallel modifications, the walk is guaranteed to
> > > terminate. The sequence of dentries maybe surprising in presence
> > > of parallel directory or mount tree modifications and the iteration may
> > > not ever finish in face of parallel malicious directory tree manipulations.
> >
> > Hold on. If it's really the case then is the landlock susceptible
> > to this type of attack already ?
> > landlock may infinitely loop in the kernel ?
> 
> I think this only happens if the attacker can modify the mount or
> directory tree as fast as the walk, which is probably impossible
> in reality.

Yes, so this is not an infinite loop but an infinite race between the
kernel and a very fast malicious user space process with an infinite
number of available nested writable directories, that would also require
a filesystem (and a kernel) supporting infinite pathname length.

> 
> Thanks,
> Song
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-30 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-28 22:26 [PATCH bpf-next 0/4] bpf " Song Liu
2025-05-28 22:26 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/4] namei: Introduce new helper function path_parent() Song Liu
2025-05-28 22:26 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/4] landlock: Use path_parent() Song Liu
2025-05-31 13:51   ` Tingmao Wang
2025-06-02 13:36     ` Song Liu
2025-06-03  0:10       ` Song Liu
2025-06-03 12:47         ` Mickaël Salaün
2025-06-02 17:35     ` Mickaël Salaün
2025-06-02 22:56       ` Tingmao Wang
2025-05-28 22:26 ` [PATCH bpf-next 3/4] bpf: Introduce path iterator Song Liu
2025-05-28 22:37   ` Al Viro
2025-05-29 11:58     ` Jan Kara
2025-05-29 16:53       ` Song Liu
2025-05-29 16:57         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-29 17:05           ` Song Liu
2025-05-30 14:20             ` Mickaël Salaün [this message]
2025-06-02  9:41               ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-03  9:46               ` Jan Kara
2025-06-03 12:49                 ` Mickaël Salaün
2025-06-03 21:13                   ` Jan Kara
2025-05-29 17:38         ` Al Viro
2025-05-29 18:00           ` Song Liu
2025-05-29 18:35             ` Al Viro
2025-05-29 19:46               ` Song Liu
2025-05-29 20:15                 ` Al Viro
2025-05-29 21:07                   ` Song Liu
2025-05-29 21:45                     ` Al Viro
2025-05-29 22:13                       ` Song Liu
2025-05-29 23:10                         ` Al Viro
2025-05-30  0:42                           ` Song Liu
2025-05-30 12:20                             ` Mickaël Salaün
2025-05-30 18:43                               ` Al Viro
2025-05-31  8:39                                 ` Mickaël Salaün
2025-06-02  9:32                                 ` Christian Brauner
2025-05-30 18:55                               ` Song Liu
2025-05-31  8:40                                 ` Mickaël Salaün
2025-05-31 14:05                                 ` Tingmao Wang
2025-06-01 23:33                                   ` Song Liu
2025-06-04  0:58                             ` Tingmao Wang
2025-06-02  9:30                           ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-02  9:27             ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-02 13:27               ` Song Liu
2025-06-02 15:40                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-06-02 21:39                   ` Song Liu
2025-05-28 22:26 ` [PATCH bpf-next 4/4] selftests/bpf: Add tests for bpf " Song Liu

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20250530.oh5pahH9Nui9@digikod.net \
    --to=mic@digikod.net \
    --cc=alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com \
    --cc=amir73il@gmail.com \
    --cc=andrii@kernel.org \
    --cc=ast@kernel.org \
    --cc=bpf@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=brauner@kernel.org \
    --cc=daniel@iogearbox.net \
    --cc=eddyz87@gmail.com \
    --cc=gnoack@google.com \
    --cc=jack@suse.cz \
    --cc=jlayton@kernel.org \
    --cc=josef@toxicpanda.com \
    --cc=kernel-team@meta.com \
    --cc=kpsingh@kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=martin.lau@linux.dev \
    --cc=mattbobrowski@google.com \
    --cc=repnop@google.com \
    --cc=song@kernel.org \
    --cc=viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox

all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®