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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com>,
	"Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@gnu.org>,
	Beau Belgrave <beaub@linux.microsoft.com>,
	Jens Remus <jremus@linux.ibm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 07/14] unwind_user/deferred: Make unwind deferral requests NMI-safe
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 10:57:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250619085717.GB1613376@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250611010428.938845449@goodmis.org>

On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 08:54:28PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:

> +static int unwind_deferred_request_nmi(struct unwind_work *work, u64 *timestamp)
> +{
> +	struct unwind_task_info *info = &current->unwind_info;
> +	bool inited_timestamp = false;
> +	int ret;
> +
> +	/* Always use the nmi_timestamp first */
> +	*timestamp = info->nmi_timestamp ? : info->timestamp;
> +
> +	if (!*timestamp) {
> +		/*
> +		 * This is the first unwind request since the most recent entry
> +		 * from user space. Initialize the task timestamp.
> +		 *
> +		 * Don't write to info->timestamp directly, otherwise it may race
> +		 * with an interruption of get_timestamp().
> +		 */
> +		info->nmi_timestamp = local_clock();
> +		*timestamp = info->nmi_timestamp;
> +		inited_timestamp = true;
> +	}
> +
> +	if (info->pending)
> +		return 1;
> +
> +	ret = task_work_add(current, &info->work, TWA_NMI_CURRENT);
> +	if (ret < 0) {
> +		/*
> +		 * If this set nmi_timestamp and is not using it,
> +		 * there's no guarantee that it will be used.
> +		 * Set it back to zero.
> +		 */
> +		if (inited_timestamp)
> +			info->nmi_timestamp = 0;
> +		return ret;
> +	}
> +
> +	info->pending = 1;
> +
> +	return 0;
> +}
> +
>  /**
>   * unwind_deferred_request - Request a user stacktrace on task exit
>   * @work: Unwind descriptor requesting the trace
> @@ -139,31 +207,38 @@ static void unwind_deferred_task_work(struct callback_head *head)
>  int unwind_deferred_request(struct unwind_work *work, u64 *timestamp)
>  {
>  	struct unwind_task_info *info = &current->unwind_info;
> +	int pending;
>  	int ret;
>  
>  	*timestamp = 0;
>  
>  	if ((current->flags & (PF_KTHREAD | PF_EXITING)) ||
>  	    !user_mode(task_pt_regs(current)))
>  		return -EINVAL;
>  
> +	if (in_nmi())
> +		return unwind_deferred_request_nmi(work, timestamp);

So nested NMI is a thing -- AFAICT this is broken in the face of nested
NMI.

Specifically, we mark all exceptions that can happen with IRQs disabled
as NMI like (so that they don't go about taking locks etc.).

So imagine you're in #DB, you're asking for an unwind, you do the above
dance and get hit with NMI.

Then you get the NMI setting nmi_timestamp, and #DB overwriting it with
a later value, and you're back up the creek without no paddles.


Mix that with local_clock() that is only monotonic on a single CPU. And
you ask for an unwind on CPU0, get migrated to CPU1 which for the
argument will be behind, and see a timestamp 'far' in the future.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-19  8:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-11  0:54 [PATCH v10 00/14] unwind_user: x86: Deferred unwinding infrastructure Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 01/14] unwind_user: Add user space unwinding API Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 13:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 02/14] unwind_user: Add frame pointer support Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 13:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-18 15:09     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-23 16:31       ` Indu Bhagat
2025-06-24 20:30         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 03/14] unwind_user: Add compat mode " Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 13:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-18 15:10     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 17:52       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-06-18 18:37         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 13:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-18 15:18     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  7:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  8:39         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 04/14] unwind_user/deferred: Add unwind_deferred_trace() Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 13:54   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-18 13:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-18 15:20     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 16:26       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 14:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-18 15:23     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 14:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-18 15:29     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  7:54       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  8:44         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 05/14] unwind_user/deferred: Add unwind cache Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 14:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-18 15:33     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  7:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  8:47         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  9:04           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  9:12             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 06/14] unwind_user/deferred: Add deferred unwinding interface Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 14:20   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-18 15:37     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 15:38       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  8:01       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  8:49         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 18:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-18 19:09     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-18 19:36       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  7:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  8:56         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  9:11           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-24 14:03             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-24 22:36     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 07/14] unwind_user/deferred: Make unwind deferral requests NMI-safe Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  8:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  8:37     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  8:44       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  8:48         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  9:10           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  9:24             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  8:57   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2025-06-19  9:07     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  9:32       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  9:34         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19  9:42         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19  9:45           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19 10:19             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-19 10:39               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19 13:04                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 08/14] unwind deferred: Use bitmask to determine which callbacks to call Steven Rostedt
2025-06-20  8:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-24 14:55     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-24 15:00       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-24 16:36         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 09/14] unwind deferred: Use SRCU unwind_deferred_task_work() Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 10/14] unwind: Clear unwind_mask on exit back to user space Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 11/14] unwind: Finish up unwind when a task exits Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 12/14] unwind_user/x86: Enable frame pointer unwinding on x86 Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 13/14] perf/x86: Rename and move get_segment_base() and make it global Steven Rostedt
2025-06-11  0:54 ` [PATCH v10 14/14] unwind_user/x86: Enable compat mode frame pointer unwinding on x86 Steven Rostedt
2025-06-12 21:44 ` [PATCH v10 00/14] unwind_user: x86: Deferred unwinding infrastructure Andrii Nakryiko
2025-06-12 22:02   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-06-12 23:30     ` Andrii Nakryiko

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