From: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>
To: Alex Elder <elder@riscstar.com>
Cc: lgirdwood@gmail.com, broonie@kernel.org, robh@kernel.org,
krzk+dt@kernel.org, conor+dt@kernel.org, dlan@gentoo.org,
paul.walmsley@sifive.com, palmer@dabbelt.com,
aou@eecs.berkeley.edu, alex@ghiti.fr, troymitchell988@gmail.com,
guodong@riscstar.com, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, spacemit@lists.linux.dev,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] mfd: spacemit: add support for SpacemiT PMICs
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 14:33:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250625133346.GW795775@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5005ba79-d5a5-4d6f-ab0c-4df51407a549@riscstar.com>
On Wed, 25 Jun 2025, Alex Elder wrote:
> On 6/25/25 3:21 AM, Lee Jones wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 Jun 2025, Alex Elder wrote:
> >
> > > On 6/19/25 9:40 AM, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 13 Jun 2025, Alex Elder wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Add support for SpacemiT PMICs. Initially only the P1 PMIC is supported
> > > > > but the driver is structured to allow support for others to be added.
> > > > >
> > > > > The P1 PMIC is controlled by I2C, and is normally implemented with the
> > > > > SpacemiT K1 SoC. This PMIC provides six buck converters and 12 LDO
> > > >
> > > > six or 12. Please pick a format and remain consistent.
> > >
> > > "Numbers smaller than ten should be spelled out."
> >
> > Never heard of that before Googling it. Formal writing is odd. :)
> >
> > > But I'll use 6 and 12.
>
> . . .
>
> > > > > +/* The name field defines the *driver* name that should bind to the device */
> > > >
> > > > This comment is superfluous.
> > >
> > > I'll delete it.
> > >
> > > I was expecting the driver to recognize the device, not
> > > the device specifying what driver to use, but I guess
> > > I'm used to the DT model.
> >
> > Even in DT, the *driver* compatible is specified.
> >
> > .driver.of_match_table->compatible
>
> I guess I just interpret that differently than you do. I think
> of the device compatible string as saying "this is what I am,"
> much like a VID/PID in USB or PCI.
>
> Then the driver's of_match table says "if a device claims to
> be compatible with any of these it should be bound to me."
>
> Meanwhile, the MFD device method has the device (cell) saying
> "I should be bound to the driver having this name."
In all cases that I'm aware of (platform code, DT, ACPI, etc), and as
far back as I can remember, the platform devices specify some predefined
data (IDs or strings) that is associated with (hard-coded directly into
the driver in fact) the driver it wishes to be bound to. This
pre-defined identifier is stored in the driver's data structure:
struct device_driver {
const char *name;
const struct of_device_id *of_match_table;
const struct acpi_device_id *acpi_match_table;
};
All of these are statically hard-coded items which a device can specify
in order to be bound to the driver.
> > > > > + /* We currently have no need for a device-specific structure */
> > > >
> > > > Then why are we adding one?
> > >
> > > I don't understand, but it might be moot once I add support
> > > for another (sub)device.
> >
> > There are 2 rules in play here:
> >
> > - Only add what you need, when you need it
> > - MFDs must contain more than 1 device
> >
> > ... and you're right. The second rule moots the first here.
>
> What the comment meant to say is "we have no need to kzalloc()
> any special structure here" as most drivers do. Simply adding
> the set of MFDs defined by the cells is enough. The same is
> true in "simple-mfd-i2c.c".
I see. Driver data is not compulsory. There are plenty of drivers
which refrain from storing data for the child to make use of.
> But this entire source file is gone now, so it's moot for that
> reason.
>
> . . .
>
> > > > > +static const struct of_device_id spacemit_pmic_match[] = {
> > > > > + {
> > > > > + .compatible = "spacemit,p1",
> > > > > + .data = &p1_pmic_data,
> > > >
> > > > Ah, now I see.
> > > >
> > > > We do not allow one data from registration mechanism (MFD) to be piped
> > > > through another (OF). If you have to match platform data to device (you
> > > > don't), then pass through identifiers and match on those in a switch()
> > > > statement instead.
> > >
> > > I haven't done an MFD driver before and it took some time
> > > to get this working. I'll tell you what led me to it.
> > >
> > > I used code posted by Troy Mitchell (plus downstream) as a
> > > starting point.
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20241230-k1-p1-v1-0-aa4e02b9f993@gmail.com/
> > >
> > > Krzysztof Kozlowski made this comment on Troy's DT binding:
> > > Drop compatible, regulators are not re-usable blocks.
> > >
> > > So my goal was to have the PMIC regulators get bound to a
> > > driver without specifying a DT compatible string, and I
> > > found this worked.
> > >
> > > You say I don't need to match platform data to device, but
> > > if I did I would pass through identifiers. Can you refer
> > > me to an example of code that correctly does what I should
> > > be doing instead?
> >
> > git grep -A5 compatible -- drivers/mfd | grep -E "\.data = .*[A-Z]+"
> >
> > Those identifiers are usually matched in a swtich() statement.
>
> OK now I see what you you're talking about. But these
> compatible strings (and data) are for the PMIC. I was
> trying to avoid using compatible strings for the *regulators*,
> based on Krzysztof's comment. And in the process I learned
> that the MFD cell needs to specify the name of a driver,
> not a compatible string.
That's correct. The compatible attribute is voluntary.
> > > One other comment/question:
> > > This driver is structured as if it could support a different
> > > PMIC (in addition to P1). Should I *not* do that, and simply
> > > make a source file hard-coded for this one PMIC?
> >
> > This comes back to the "add only what you need, when you need it" rule.
>
> Yes, and I agree with that rule. Thanks for your clarifications.
>
> Using simple-mfd-i2c.c is much better. I was surprised (and I guess
> pleased) to see that it was almost *identical* to what I came up with.
*thumbs-up*
--
Lee Jones [李琼斯]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-25 13:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-13 21:01 [PATCH 0/6] spacemit: introduce P1 PMIC and regulator support Alex Elder
2025-06-13 21:01 ` [PATCH 1/6] dt-bindings: mfd: add support the SpacmiT P1 PMIC Alex Elder
2025-06-19 6:03 ` Vivian Wang
2025-06-19 13:23 ` Alex Elder
2025-06-13 21:01 ` [PATCH 2/6] mfd: spacemit: add support for SpacemiT PMICs Alex Elder
2025-06-19 5:46 ` Vivian Wang
2025-06-19 13:23 ` Alex Elder
2025-06-19 14:40 ` Lee Jones
2025-06-19 14:41 ` Lee Jones
2025-06-20 14:10 ` Alex Elder
2025-06-20 14:10 ` Alex Elder
2025-06-25 8:21 ` Lee Jones
2025-06-25 11:48 ` Alex Elder
2025-06-25 13:33 ` Lee Jones [this message]
2025-06-13 21:01 ` [PATCH 3/6] regulator: spacemit: support SpacemiT P1 regulators Alex Elder
2025-06-14 11:03 ` Mark Brown
2025-06-19 6:15 ` Vivian Wang
2025-06-19 13:23 ` Alex Elder
2025-06-19 14:13 ` Vivian Wang
2025-06-13 21:01 ` [PATCH 4/6] riscv: dts: spacemit: enable the i2c8 adapter Alex Elder
2025-06-13 21:01 ` [PATCH 5/6] riscv: dts: spacemit: define fixed regulators Alex Elder
2025-06-13 21:01 ` [PATCH 6/6] riscv: dts: spacemit: define regulator constraints Alex Elder
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