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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, vschneid@redhat.com,
	dhaval@gianis.ca, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/6] sched/fair: Manage lag and run to parity with different slices
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 16:14:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250707141441.GG1613200@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250704143612.998419-1-vincent.guittot@linaro.org>

On Fri, Jul 04, 2025 at 04:36:06PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> This follows the attempt to better track maximum lag of tasks in presence
> of different slices duration:
> [1]  https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250418151225.3006867-1-vincent.guittot@linaro.org/
> 
> Since v1, tracking of the max slice has been removed from the patchset
> because we now ensure that the lag of an entity remains in the range of:
>    
>   [-(slice + tick) : (slice + tick)] with run_to_parity
> and
>   [max(-slice, -(0.7+tick) : max(slice , (0.7+tick)] without run to parity
>   
> As a result, there is no need the max slice of enqueued entities anymore.
> 
> Patch 1 is a simple cleanup to ease following changes.
> 
> Patch 2 fixes the lag for NO_RUN_TO_PARITY. It has been put 1st because of
> its simplicity. The running task has a minimum protection of 0.7ms before
> eevdf looks for another task.

The usage of min() on vruntimes is broken; it doesn't work right in the
face of wrapping; use min_vruntime().

Also, perhaps it is time to better document this vlag abuse.

> Patch 3 ensures that the protection is canceled only if the waking task
> will be selected by pick_task_fair. This case has been mentionned by Peter
> will reviewing v1.
> 
> Patch 4 modifes the duration of the protection to take into account the
> shortest slice of enqueued tasks instead of the slice of the running task.
> 
> Patch 5 fixes the case of tasks not being eligible at wakeup or after
> migrating  but with a shorter slice. We need to update the duration of the
> protection to not exceed the lag.

This has issues with non-determinism; specifically,
update_protected_slice() will use the current ->vruntime, and as such
can unduly push forward the protection window.

> Patch 6 fixes the case of tasks still being eligible after the protected
> period but others must run to no exceed lag limit. This has been
> highlighted in a test with delayed entities being dequeued with a positive
> lag larger than their slice but it can happen for delayed dequeue entity
> too.

At this point resched_next_quantum() becomes !protec_slice() and can be
removed.

How about something like so? I've probably wrecked the whole
!RUN_TO_PARITY thing -- so that needs to be put back in.

--- a/include/linux/sched.h
+++ b/include/linux/sched.h
@@ -579,7 +579,15 @@ struct sched_entity {
 	u64				sum_exec_runtime;
 	u64				prev_sum_exec_runtime;
 	u64				vruntime;
-	s64				vlag;
+	union {
+		/*
+		 * When !@on_rq this field is vlag.
+		 * When cfs_rq->curr == se (which implies @on_rq)
+		 * this field is vprot. See protect_slice().
+		 */
+		s64			vlag;
+		u64			vprot;
+	};
 	u64				slice;
 
 	u64				nr_migrations;
--- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
@@ -882,45 +882,36 @@ struct sched_entity *__pick_first_entity
 }
 
 /*
- * HACK, Set the vruntime up to which an entity can run before picking another
- * one, in vlag, which isn't used until dequeue.
- * In case of run to parity, we use the shortest slice of the enqueued entities
- * to define the longest runtime.
- * When run to parity is disabled, we give a minimum quantum to the running
- * entity to ensure progress.
+ * Take a snapshot of the vruntime at the point the task gets scheduled.
  */
 static inline void set_protect_slice(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se)
 {
-	u64 quantum;
-
-	if (sched_feat(RUN_TO_PARITY))
-		quantum = cfs_rq_min_slice(cfs_rq);
-	else
-		quantum = normalized_sysctl_sched_base_slice;
-	quantum = min(quantum, se->slice);
-
-	if (quantum != se->slice)
-		se->vlag = min(se->deadline, se->vruntime + calc_delta_fair(quantum, se));
-	else
-		se->vlag = se->deadline;
+	se->vprot = se->vruntime;
 }
 
-static inline void update_protect_slice(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se)
+/*
+ * Should we still run @se? It is allowed to run until either se->deadline or
+ * until se->vprot + min_vslice, whichever comes first.
+ */
+static inline bool protect_slice(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se)
 {
-	u64 quantum = cfs_rq_min_slice(cfs_rq);
+	u64 min_vslice, deadline = se->deadline;
+	u64 min_slice = cfs_rq_min_slice(cfs_rq);
 
-	se->vlag = min(se->vlag, (s64)(se->vruntime + calc_delta_fair(quantum, se)));
-}
+	if (min_slice != se->slice) {
+		min_vslice = calc_delta_fair(min_slice, se);
+		deadline = min_vruntime(se->deadline, se->vprot + min_vslice);
+	}
 
-static inline bool protect_slice(struct sched_entity *se)
-{
-	return ((s64)(se->vlag - se->vruntime) > 0);
+	WARN_ON_ONCE(!se->on_rq);
+
+	return ((s64)(deadline - se->vruntime) > 0);
 }
 
-static inline void cancel_protect_slice(struct sched_entity *se)
+static inline void cancel_protect_slice(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se)
 {
-	if (protect_slice(se))
-		se->vlag = se->vruntime;
+	if (protect_slice(cfs_rq, se))
+		se->vprot = se->vruntime - calc_delta_fair(NSEC_PER_SEC, se);
 }
 
 /*
@@ -959,7 +950,7 @@ static struct sched_entity *__pick_eevdf
 	if (curr && (!curr->on_rq || !entity_eligible(cfs_rq, curr)))
 		curr = NULL;
 
-	if (curr && protect && protect_slice(curr))
+	if (curr && protect && protect_slice(cfs_rq, curr))
 		return curr;
 
 	/* Pick the leftmost entity if it's eligible */
@@ -1183,14 +1174,6 @@ static inline void update_curr_task(stru
 	cgroup_account_cputime(p, delta_exec);
 }
 
-static inline bool resched_next_quantum(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *curr)
-{
-	if (protect_slice(curr))
-		return false;
-
-	return true;
-}
-
 /*
  * Used by other classes to account runtime.
  */
@@ -1251,7 +1234,7 @@ static void update_curr(struct cfs_rq *c
 	if (cfs_rq->nr_queued == 1)
 		return;
 
-	if (resched || resched_next_quantum(cfs_rq, curr)) {
+	if (resched || !protect_slice(cfs_rq, curr)) {
 		resched_curr_lazy(rq);
 		clear_buddies(cfs_rq, curr);
 	}
@@ -8729,7 +8712,7 @@ static void check_preempt_wakeup_fair(st
 	 * If @p has a shorter slice than current and @p is eligible, override
 	 * current's slice protection in order to allow preemption.
 	 */
-	 do_preempt_short = sched_feat(PREEMPT_SHORT) && (pse->slice < se->slice);
+	do_preempt_short = sched_feat(PREEMPT_SHORT) && (pse->slice < se->slice);
 
 	/*
 	 * If @p has become the most eligible task, force preemption.
@@ -8737,14 +8720,11 @@ static void check_preempt_wakeup_fair(st
 	if (__pick_eevdf(cfs_rq, !do_preempt_short) == pse)
 		goto preempt;
 
-	if (sched_feat(RUN_TO_PARITY) && do_preempt_short)
-		update_protect_slice(cfs_rq, se);
-
 	return;
 
 preempt:
 	if (do_preempt_short)
-		cancel_protect_slice(se);
+		cancel_protect_slice(cfs_rq, se);
 
 	resched_curr_lazy(rq);
 }

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-07 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-04 14:36 Vincent Guittot
2025-07-04 14:36 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] sched/fair: Use protect_slice() instead of direct comparison Vincent Guittot
2025-07-04 14:36 ` [PATCH 2/6] sched/fair: Fix NO_RUN_TO_PARITY case Vincent Guittot
2025-07-04 14:36 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] sched/fair: Remove spurious shorter slice preemption Vincent Guittot
2025-07-05 14:15   ` kernel test robot
2025-07-04 14:36 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] sched/fair: Limit run to parity to the min slice of enqueued entities Vincent Guittot
2025-07-04 14:36 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] sched/fair: Fix entity's lag with run to parity Vincent Guittot
2025-07-04 14:36 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] sched/fair: Always trigger resched at the end of a protected period Vincent Guittot
2025-07-07 14:14 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2025-07-07 15:49   ` [PATCH v2 0/6] sched/fair: Manage lag and run to parity with different slices Vincent Guittot
2025-07-08 18:44     ` Peter Zijlstra

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