From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Wander Lairson Costa <wander@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"open list:TRACING" <linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
Clark Williams <williams@redhat.com>,
Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] tracing/preemptirq: Optimize preempt_disable/enable() tracepoint overhead
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2025 20:54:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250708185412.GC477119@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <33jax5mmu7mdt6ph5t5bb7fvprbypxhefrvgrc2ru4p2dpqldg@d6af6oc6442r>
On Tue, Jul 08, 2025 at 09:54:06AM -0300, Wander Lairson Costa wrote:
> O Mon, Jul 07, 2025 at 01:20:03PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 04, 2025 at 02:07:43PM -0300, Wander Lairson Costa wrote:
> > > Similar to the IRQ tracepoint, the preempt tracepoints are typically
> > > disabled in production systems due to the significant overhead they
> > > introduce even when not in use.
> > >
> > > The overhead primarily comes from two sources: First, when tracepoints
> > > are compiled into the kernel, preempt_count_add() and preempt_count_sub()
> > > become external function calls rather than inlined operations. Second,
> > > these functions perform unnecessary preempt_count() checks even when the
> > > tracepoint itself is disabled.
> > >
> > > This optimization introduces an early check of the tracepoint static key,
> > > which allows us to skip both the function call overhead and the redundant
> > > preempt_count() checks when tracing is disabled. The change maintains all
> > > existing functionality when tracing is active while significantly
> > > reducing overhead for the common case where tracing is inactive.
> > >
> >
> > This one in particular I worry about the code gen impact. There are a
> > *LOT* of preempt_{dis,en}able() sites in the kernel and now they all get
> > this static branch and call crud on.
> >
> > We spend significant effort to make preempt_{dis,en}able() as small as
> > possible.
> >
>
> Thank you for the feedback, it's much appreciated. I just want to make sure
> I'm on the right track. If I understand your concern correctly, it revolves
> around the overhead this patch might introduce???specifically to the binary
> size and its effect on the iCache???when the kernel is built with preempt
> tracepoints enabled. Is that an accurate summary?
Yes, specifically:
preempt_disable()
incl %gs:__preempt_count
preempt_enable()
decl %gs:__preempt_count
jz do_schedule
1: ...
do_schedule:
call __SCT__preemptible_schedule
jmp 1
your proposal adds significantly to this.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-08 18:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-04 17:07 [PATCH v3 0/2] tracing/preemptirq: Optimize disabled " Wander Lairson Costa
2025-07-04 17:07 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] trace/preemptirq: reduce overhead of irq_enable/disable tracepoints Wander Lairson Costa
2025-07-06 4:29 ` kernel test robot
2025-07-04 17:07 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] tracing/preemptirq: Optimize preempt_disable/enable() tracepoint overhead Wander Lairson Costa
2025-07-07 10:29 ` kernel test robot
2025-07-07 11:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-08 12:54 ` Wander Lairson Costa
2025-07-08 18:54 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2025-08-01 13:30 ` Wander Lairson Costa
2025-08-25 11:56 ` Wander Lairson Costa
2025-07-07 11:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-08 13:09 ` Wander Lairson Costa
2025-07-08 18:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-01 13:05 ` Wander Lairson Costa
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