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From: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Neeraj Upadhyay <neeraj.upadhyay@kernel.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Zqiang <qiang.zhang@linux.dev>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: rcu@vger.kernel.org, neeraj.iitr10@gmail.com, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [PATCH -next 4/6] rcu: Document separation of rcu_state and rnp's gp_seq
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2025 16:01:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250715200156.2852484-5-joelagnelf@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250715200156.2852484-1-joelagnelf@nvidia.com>

The details of this are subtle and was discussed recently. Add a
quick-quiz about this and refer to it from the code, for more clarity.

Reviewed-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>
---
 .../Data-Structures/Data-Structures.rst       | 32 +++++++++++++++++++
 kernel/rcu/tree.c                             |  4 +++
 2 files changed, 36 insertions(+)

diff --git a/Documentation/RCU/Design/Data-Structures/Data-Structures.rst b/Documentation/RCU/Design/Data-Structures/Data-Structures.rst
index 04e16775c752..930535f076b4 100644
--- a/Documentation/RCU/Design/Data-Structures/Data-Structures.rst
+++ b/Documentation/RCU/Design/Data-Structures/Data-Structures.rst
@@ -286,6 +286,38 @@ in order to detect the beginnings and ends of grace periods in a
 distributed fashion. The values flow from ``rcu_state`` to ``rcu_node``
 (down the tree from the root to the leaves) to ``rcu_data``.
 
++-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
+| **Quick Quiz**:                                                       |
++-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
+| Given that the root rcu_node structure has a gp_seq field,            |
+| why does RCU maintain a separate gp_seq in the rcu_state structure?   |
+| Why not just use the root rcu_node's gp_seq as the official record    |
+| and update it directly when starting a new grace period?              |
++-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
+| **Answer**:                                                           |
++-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
+| On single-node RCU trees (where the root node is also a leaf),        |
+| updating the root node's gp_seq immediately would create unnecessary  |
+| lock contention. Here's why:                                          |
+|                                                                       |
+| If we did rcu_seq_start() directly on the root node's gp_seq:         |
+| 1. All CPUs would immediately see their node's gp_seq from their rdp's|
+|    gp_seq, in rcu_pending(). They would all then invoke the RCU-core. |
+| 2. Which calls note_gp_changes() and try to acquire the node lock.    |
+| 3. But rnp->qsmask isn't initialized yet (happens later in            |
+|    rcu_gp_init())                                                     |
+| 4. So each CPU would acquire the lock, find it can't determine if it  |
+|    needs to report quiescent state (no qsmask), update rdp->gp_seq,   |
+|    and release the lock.                                              |
+| 5. Result: Lots of lock acquisitions with no grace period progress    |
+|                                                                       |
+| By having a separate rcu_state.gp_seq, we can increment the official  |
+| grace period counter without immediately affecting what CPUs see in   |
+| their nodes. The hierarchical propagation in rcu_gp_init() then       |
+| updates the root node's gp_seq and qsmask together under the same lock|
+| acquisition, avoiding this useless contention.                        |
++-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
+
 Miscellaneous
 '''''''''''''
 
diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tree.c b/kernel/rcu/tree.c
index 040e853758df..aa6cbd1501cb 100644
--- a/kernel/rcu/tree.c
+++ b/kernel/rcu/tree.c
@@ -1844,6 +1844,10 @@ static noinline_for_stack bool rcu_gp_init(void)
 	 * use-after-free errors. For a detailed explanation of this race, see
 	 * Documentation/RCU/Design/Requirements/Requirements.rst in the
 	 * "Hotplug CPU" section.
+	 *
+	 * Also note that the root rnp's gp_seq is kept separate from, and lags,
+	 * the rcu_state's gp_seq, for a reason. See the Quick-Quiz on
+	 * Single-node systems for more details (in Data-Structures.rst).
 	 */
 	rcu_seq_start(&rcu_state.gp_seq);
 	/* Ensure that rcu_seq_done_exact() guardband doesn't give false positives. */
-- 
2.34.1


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-15 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-15 20:01 [PATCH -next 0/6] Patches for v6.17 Joel Fernandes
2025-07-15 20:01 ` [PATCH -next 1/6] smp: Document preemption and stop_machine() mutual exclusion Joel Fernandes
2025-07-15 20:01 ` [PATCH -next 2/6] rcu: Refactor expedited handling check in rcu_read_unlock_special() Joel Fernandes
2025-07-15 20:01 ` [PATCH -next 3/6] rcu: Document GP init vs hotplug-scan ordering requirements Joel Fernandes
2025-07-15 20:01 ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2025-07-15 20:01 ` [PATCH -next 5/6] rcu: Document concurrent quiescent state reporting for offline CPUs Joel Fernandes
2025-07-15 20:01 ` [PATCH -next 6/6] [please squash] fixup! rcu: Fix rcu_read_unlock() deadloop due to IRQ work Joel Fernandes
2025-07-16  5:32 ` [PATCH -next 0/6] Patches for v6.17 Neeraj upadhyay
2025-07-20  4:30 ` Akira Yokosawa
2025-07-21  4:29   ` Neeraj upadhyay
2025-07-21  8:27     ` Joel Fernandes

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