From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>,
corbet@lwn.net, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
workflows@vger.kernel.org, josh@joshtriplett.org,
kees@kernel.org, konstantin@linuxfoundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Add agent coding assistant configuration to Linux kernel
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2025 13:56:34 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250728105634.GF787@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2025072854-earthen-velcro-8b32@gregkh>
On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 12:35:02PM +0200, Greg KH wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 09:42:27AM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > +cc Linus
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 03:57:58PM -0400, Sasha Levin wrote:
> > > This patch series adds unified configuration and documentation for coding
> > > agents working with the Linux kernel codebase. As coding agents
> > > become increasingly common in software development, it's important to
> > > establish clear guidelines for their use in kernel development.
> >
> > Hi Sasha,
> >
> > I feel like we need to take a step back here and consider some of the
> > non-technical consqeuences of this change.
> >
> > Firstly, there is no doubt whatsoever that, were this series to land, there
> > would be significant press which would amount to (whether you like it or
> > not) 'Linux kernel welcomes AI patches'.
> >
> > I don't feel that a change of this magnitude which is likely to have this
> > kind of impact should be RFC'd quietly and then, after a weekend, submitted
> > ready to merge.
> >
> > This change, whether you like it or not - amounts to (or at the very least,
> > certainly will be perceived to be) kernel policy. And, AFAIK, we don't have
> > an AI kernel policy doc yet.
> >
> > So to me:
> >
> > - We should establish an official kernel AI policy document.
>
> Steven Rostedt is working on this right now, hopefully he has something
> "soon".
>
> > - This should be discussed at the maintainers summit before proceeding.
>
> Sounds reasonable as well.
>
> But I think that Kees and my earlier points of "the documentation should
> be all that an agent needs" might aleviate many of these concerns, if
> our documentation can be tweaked in a way to make it easier for
> everyone, humans and bots, to understand. That should cut down on the
> "size" of this patch series a lot overall.
>
> > In addition, it's concerning that we're explicitly adding configs for
> > specific, commercial, products. This might be seen as an endorsement
> > whether intended or not.
>
> Don't we already have that for a few things already, like .editorconfig?
We do, but isn't .editorconfig a vendor-neutral solution ?
--
Regards,
Laurent Pinchart
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-28 10:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-27 19:57 Sasha Levin
2025-07-27 19:57 ` [PATCH 1/4] agents: add unified agent coding assistant configuration Sasha Levin
2025-07-28 2:37 ` Kees Cook
2025-07-28 4:43 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-28 5:16 ` Kees Cook
2025-07-28 5:39 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-30 22:06 ` Kevin Hilman
2025-07-30 23:47 ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-01 20:53 ` Rob Herring
2025-08-08 18:07 ` Kevin Hilman
2025-07-27 19:58 ` [PATCH 2/4] agents: add core development references Sasha Levin
2025-07-28 2:39 ` Kees Cook
2025-07-28 5:00 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-28 5:10 ` Kees Cook
2025-07-28 5:59 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-28 6:18 ` Kees Cook
2025-07-28 12:35 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-30 16:25 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-30 17:35 ` Al Viro
2025-07-30 18:29 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-30 18:18 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-07-30 18:41 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-28 4:24 ` Greg KH
2025-07-28 4:52 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-28 5:02 ` Kees Cook
2025-07-27 19:58 ` [PATCH 3/4] agents: add coding style documentation and rules Sasha Levin
2025-07-28 2:40 ` Kees Cook
2025-07-28 5:10 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-28 5:21 ` Kees Cook
2025-07-28 6:03 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-30 9:31 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-07-30 14:48 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-30 15:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-27 19:58 ` [PATCH 4/4] agents: add legal requirements and agent attribution guidelines Sasha Levin
2025-07-28 2:43 ` Kees Cook
2025-08-05 22:08 ` Jeff Johnson
2025-08-05 23:11 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-05 23:33 ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-06 14:12 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-08-06 21:53 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-28 7:58 ` [PATCH 0/4] Add agent coding assistant configuration to Linux kernel Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-28 9:27 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-28 10:37 ` Greg KH
2025-07-28 10:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-28 13:05 ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-04 9:23 ` Michal Hocko
2025-08-04 9:41 ` Michal Hocko
2025-08-04 13:25 ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-04 22:03 ` Jiri Kosina
2025-08-04 22:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-08-04 22:30 ` Jiri Kosina
2025-08-04 22:53 ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-04 23:30 ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-04 23:39 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-05 13:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-28 11:57 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-28 8:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-28 10:35 ` Greg KH
2025-07-28 10:52 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-28 12:45 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-28 13:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-28 13:23 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-28 13:28 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-30 15:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-30 15:34 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-30 16:18 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-30 16:33 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-30 16:36 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-30 16:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-30 17:12 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-30 17:23 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-30 17:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-30 18:03 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-30 18:18 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-30 18:04 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-30 19:16 ` Mark Brown
2025-07-30 17:25 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-30 17:34 ` Mark Brown
2025-07-30 17:36 ` Kees Cook
2025-08-04 10:20 ` Jiri Kosina
2025-07-30 17:05 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-30 17:46 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-30 17:59 ` Al Viro
2025-07-30 18:10 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-30 18:24 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-30 18:59 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-30 19:10 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-07-30 19:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-30 19:51 ` Al Viro
2025-07-31 3:17 ` Hillf Danton
2025-07-30 19:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-31 0:02 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-30 16:40 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2025-07-30 17:10 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-30 17:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-30 17:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-30 17:12 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-30 17:39 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2025-07-30 17:51 ` Kees Cook
2025-07-30 16:58 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-28 10:56 ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2025-08-12 18:13 ` Nicolas Frattaroli
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