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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>,
	corbet@lwn.net, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	workflows@vger.kernel.org, josh@joshtriplett.org,
	kees@kernel.org, konstantin@linuxfoundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Add agent coding assistant configuration to Linux kernel
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2025 13:56:34 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250728105634.GF787@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2025072854-earthen-velcro-8b32@gregkh>

On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 12:35:02PM +0200, Greg KH wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 09:42:27AM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > +cc Linus
> > 
> > On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 03:57:58PM -0400, Sasha Levin wrote:
> > > This patch series adds unified configuration and documentation for coding
> > > agents working with the Linux kernel codebase. As coding agents
> > > become increasingly common in software development, it's important to
> > > establish clear guidelines for their use in kernel development.
> > 
> > Hi Sasha,
> > 
> > I feel like we need to take a step back here and consider some of the
> > non-technical consqeuences of this change.
> > 
> > Firstly, there is no doubt whatsoever that, were this series to land, there
> > would be significant press which would amount to (whether you like it or
> > not) 'Linux kernel welcomes AI patches'.
> > 
> > I don't feel that a change of this magnitude which is likely to have this
> > kind of impact should be RFC'd quietly and then, after a weekend, submitted
> > ready to merge.
> > 
> > This change, whether you like it or not - amounts to (or at the very least,
> > certainly will be perceived to be) kernel policy. And, AFAIK, we don't have
> > an AI kernel policy doc yet.
> > 
> > So to me:
> > 
> > - We should establish an official kernel AI policy document.
> 
> Steven Rostedt is working on this right now, hopefully he has something
> "soon".
> 
> > - This should be discussed at the maintainers summit before proceeding.
> 
> Sounds reasonable as well.
> 
> But I think that Kees and my earlier points of "the documentation should
> be all that an agent needs" might aleviate many of these concerns, if
> our documentation can be tweaked in a way to make it easier for
> everyone, humans and bots, to understand.  That should cut down on the
> "size" of this patch series a lot overall.
> 
> > In addition, it's concerning that we're explicitly adding configs for
> > specific, commercial, products. This might be seen as an endorsement
> > whether intended or not.
> 
> Don't we already have that for a few things already, like .editorconfig?

We do, but isn't .editorconfig a vendor-neutral solution ?

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-28 10:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-27 19:57 Sasha Levin
2025-07-27 19:57 ` [PATCH 1/4] agents: add unified agent coding assistant configuration Sasha Levin
2025-07-28  2:37   ` Kees Cook
2025-07-28  4:43     ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-28  5:16       ` Kees Cook
2025-07-28  5:39         ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-30 22:06   ` Kevin Hilman
2025-07-30 23:47     ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-01 20:53     ` Rob Herring
2025-08-08 18:07       ` Kevin Hilman
2025-07-27 19:58 ` [PATCH 2/4] agents: add core development references Sasha Levin
2025-07-28  2:39   ` Kees Cook
2025-07-28  5:00     ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-28  5:10       ` Kees Cook
2025-07-28  5:59         ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-28  6:18           ` Kees Cook
2025-07-28 12:35             ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-30 16:25             ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-30 17:35               ` Al Viro
2025-07-30 18:29                 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-30 18:18               ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-07-30 18:41                 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-28  4:24   ` Greg KH
2025-07-28  4:52     ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-28  5:02       ` Kees Cook
2025-07-27 19:58 ` [PATCH 3/4] agents: add coding style documentation and rules Sasha Levin
2025-07-28  2:40   ` Kees Cook
2025-07-28  5:10     ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-28  5:21       ` Kees Cook
2025-07-28  6:03         ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-30  9:31           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-07-30 14:48             ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-30 15:10             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-27 19:58 ` [PATCH 4/4] agents: add legal requirements and agent attribution guidelines Sasha Levin
2025-07-28  2:43   ` Kees Cook
2025-08-05 22:08   ` Jeff Johnson
2025-08-05 23:11     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-05 23:33       ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-06 14:12   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-08-06 21:53     ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-28  7:58 ` [PATCH 0/4] Add agent coding assistant configuration to Linux kernel Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-28  9:27   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-28 10:37     ` Greg KH
2025-07-28 10:47       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-28 13:05         ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-04  9:23           ` Michal Hocko
2025-08-04  9:41             ` Michal Hocko
2025-08-04 13:25             ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-04 22:03               ` Jiri Kosina
2025-08-04 22:14                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-08-04 22:30                   ` Jiri Kosina
2025-08-04 22:53                   ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-04 23:30                     ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-04 23:39                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-05 13:29                         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-28 11:57   ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-28  8:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-28 10:35   ` Greg KH
2025-07-28 10:52     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-28 12:45       ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-28 13:13         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-28 13:23           ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-28 13:28             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-30 15:27       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-30 15:34         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-30 16:18           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-30 16:33             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-30 16:36             ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-30 16:59               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-30 17:12                 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-30 17:23                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-30 17:32                     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-30 18:03                       ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-30 18:18                         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-30 18:04                       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-30 19:16                         ` Mark Brown
2025-07-30 17:25                   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-30 17:34                 ` Mark Brown
2025-07-30 17:36                 ` Kees Cook
2025-08-04 10:20                 ` Jiri Kosina
2025-07-30 17:05               ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-30 17:46                 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-30 17:59                   ` Al Viro
2025-07-30 18:10                     ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-30 18:24                       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-30 18:59                         ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-30 19:10                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-07-30 19:40                       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-30 19:51                       ` Al Viro
2025-07-31  3:17                     ` Hillf Danton
2025-07-30 19:27                   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-31  0:02                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-30 16:40             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2025-07-30 17:10               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-30 17:20                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-30 17:33                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-30 17:12               ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-30 17:39                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2025-07-30 17:51               ` Kees Cook
2025-07-30 16:58             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-28 10:56     ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2025-08-12 18:13 ` Nicolas Frattaroli

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