From: Nam Cao <namcao@linutronix.de>
To: Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Tomas Glozar <tglozar@redhat.com>, Juri Lelli <jlelli@redhat.com>,
Clark Williams <williams@redhat.com>,
John Kacur <jkacur@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 09/17] verification/rvgen: Allow spaces in and events strings
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2025 17:15:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250821151520.nc0hALIW@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a87d09f61a873778fe9f737ea4ab7c62dc43e950.camel@redhat.com>
On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 03:22:23PM +0200, Gabriele Monaco wrote:
> On Thu, 2025-08-21 at 14:22 +0200, Nam Cao wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2025 at 05:08:01PM +0200, Gabriele Monaco wrote:
> > > Currently the automata parser assumes event strings don't have any
> > > space, this stands true for event names, but can be a wrong
> > > assumption
> > > if we want to store other information in the event strings (e.g.
> > > constraints for hybrid automata).
> > >
> > > Adapt the parser logic to allow spaces in the event strings.
> >
> > The current parser does have a few problems. Not all valid .dot files
> > are accepted.
> >
> > I have a patch buried somewhere which removes the custom parser and
> > instead uses a library. But then it adds a new dependency, so I'm not
> > sure if it is worth..
>
> Yeah it isn't really robust, I tried to improve it a bit but sure
> something is still failing it.
> We don't need full dot capabilities, but just extract some keywords,
> I'd avoid pulling in a dependency for that.
>
> I'm imagining users would either generate graphs from the
> Waters/Supremica tool [1] or copy/edit existing ones, so I'm not sure
> they can go that far.
When I tried out the DA monitor, I edited the .dot files directly.
> Still that's hacky because some things are just lightly implied by the
> code (e.g. initial/final states, edges labels, etc.), so one day we
> should at the very least say what DOT is valid and what not.
We could also rewrite the parser using ply with a well-defined grammar and
tokenizer, like how the LTL parser is implemented. Doing it this way would
be easier to validate as well, because the grammar would be mostly
copy-pasted from the specification.
> Do you have specific examples of what doesn't work?
Two things that I can remember:
- breaking long lines
- C-style and C++-style comments
Not really relevant if you do not edit the .dot files directly like I did.
But these things are valid according to https://graphviz.org/doc/info/lang.html
Nam
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-21 15:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-14 15:07 [RFC PATCH 00/17] rv: Add Hybrid Automata monitor type, per-object and deadline monitors Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-14 15:07 ` [RFC PATCH 01/17] rv: Refactor da_monitor to minimise macros Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-21 8:14 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-21 8:49 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-25 8:02 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-25 8:03 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-14 15:07 ` [RFC PATCH 02/17] rv: Cleanup da_monitor after refactor Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-14 15:07 ` [RFC PATCH 03/17] Documentation/rv: Adapt documentation after da_monitor refactoring Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-14 15:07 ` [RFC PATCH 04/17] verification/rvgen: Adapt dot2k and templates after refactoring da_monitor.h Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-14 15:07 ` [RFC PATCH 05/17] verification/rvgen: Annotate DA functions with types Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-21 8:29 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-21 8:51 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-14 15:07 ` [RFC PATCH 06/17] verification/dot2c: Remove __buff_to_string() and cleanup Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-21 8:32 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-14 15:07 ` [RFC PATCH 07/17] verification/rvgen: Remove unused variable declaration from containers Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-21 8:33 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-14 15:08 ` [RFC PATCH 08/17] rv: Add Hybrid Automata monitor type Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-19 9:18 ` Juri Lelli
2025-08-19 9:48 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-19 10:08 ` Juri Lelli
2025-08-19 10:53 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-21 12:18 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-25 7:48 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-25 8:13 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-25 8:32 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-14 15:08 ` [RFC PATCH 09/17] verification/rvgen: Allow spaces in and events strings Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-21 12:22 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-21 13:22 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-21 15:15 ` Nam Cao [this message]
2025-08-21 15:58 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-14 15:08 ` [RFC PATCH 10/17] verification/rvgen: Add support for Hybrid Automata Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-21 12:38 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-21 13:15 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-25 9:55 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-25 14:24 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-25 10:06 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-25 14:02 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-14 15:08 ` [RFC PATCH 11/17] Documentation/rv: Add documentation about hybrid automata Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-19 8:53 ` Juri Lelli
2025-08-19 9:14 ` Juri Lelli
2025-08-19 10:46 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-19 10:40 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-14 15:08 ` [RFC PATCH 12/17] rv: Add sample hybrid monitors stall Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-14 15:08 ` [RFC PATCH 13/17] rv: Convert the opid monitor to a hybrid automaton Gabriele Monaco
2025-09-02 9:28 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-14 15:08 ` [RFC PATCH 14/17] sched: Add deadline tracepoints Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-19 9:56 ` Juri Lelli
2025-08-19 10:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-19 10:34 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-19 14:02 ` Juri Lelli
2025-08-19 14:21 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-19 14:38 ` Phil Auld
2025-08-20 5:20 ` Juri Lelli
2025-09-02 14:55 ` Juri Lelli
2025-08-14 15:08 ` [RFC PATCH 15/17] rv: Add support for per-object monitors in DA/HA Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-14 15:08 ` [RFC PATCH 16/17] verification/rvgen: Add support for per-obj monitors Gabriele Monaco
2025-09-04 8:20 ` Nam Cao
2025-09-04 8:39 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-09-04 8:58 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-14 15:08 ` [RFC PATCH 17/17] rv: Add deadline monitors Gabriele Monaco
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