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From: Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Luo Gengkun <luogengkun@huaweicloud.com>,
	mhiramat@kernel.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tracing: Fix tracing_marker may trigger page fault during preempt_disable
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2025 00:56:45 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250902005645.8c6436b535731a4917745c5d@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250829082604.1e3fd06e@gandalf.local.home>

On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 08:26:04 -0400
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:

> 
> [ Adding arm64 maintainers ]
> 
> On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 16:29:07 +0800
> Luo Gengkun <luogengkun@huaweicloud.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 2025/8/20 1:50, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > > On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 10:51:52 +0000
> > > Luo Gengkun <luogengkun@huaweicloud.com> wrote:
> > >  
> > >> Both tracing_mark_write and tracing_mark_raw_write call
> > >> __copy_from_user_inatomic during preempt_disable. But in some case,
> > >> __copy_from_user_inatomic may trigger page fault, and will call schedule()
> > >> subtly. And if a task is migrated to other cpu, the following warning will  
> > > Wait! What?
> > >
> > > __copy_from_user_inatomic() is allowed to be called from in atomic context.
> > > Hence the name it has. How the hell can it sleep? If it does, it's totally
> > > broken!
> > >
> > > Now, I'm not against using nofault() as it is better named, but I want to
> > > know why you are suggesting this change. Did you actually trigger a bug here?  
> > 
> > yes, I trigger this bug in arm64.
> 
> And I still think this is an arm64 bug.

I think it could be.

> > >  
> > >> be trigger:
> > >>          if (RB_WARN_ON(cpu_buffer,
> > >>                         !local_read(&cpu_buffer->committing)))
> > >>
> > >> An example can illustrate this issue:

You've missed an important part.

> > >>
> > >> process flow						CPU
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> tracing_mark_raw_write():				cpu:0
> > >>     ...
> > >>     ring_buffer_lock_reserve():				cpu:0
> > >>        ...

	preempt_disable_notrace(); --> this is unlocked by ring_buffer_unlock_commit()

> > >>        cpu = raw_smp_processor_id()			cpu:0
> > >>        cpu_buffer = buffer->buffers[cpu]			cpu:0
> > >>        ...
> > >>     ...
> > >>     __copy_from_user_inatomic():				cpu:0

So this is called under preempt-disabled.

> > >>        ...
> > >>        # page fault
> > >>        do_mem_abort():					cpu:0  
> > > Sounds to me that arm64 __copy_from_user_inatomic() may be broken.
> > >  
> > >>           ...
> > >>           # Call schedule
> > >>           schedule()					cpu:0

If this does not check the preempt flag, it is a problem.
Maybe arm64 needs to do fixup and abort instead of do_mem_abort()?

> > >> 	 ...
> > >>     # the task schedule to cpu1
> > >>     __buffer_unlock_commit():				cpu:1
> > >>        ...
> > >>        ring_buffer_unlock_commit():			cpu:1
> > >> 	 ...
> > >> 	 cpu = raw_smp_processor_id()			cpu:1
> > >> 	 cpu_buffer = buffer->buffers[cpu]		cpu:1

	preempt_enable_notrace(); <-- here we enable preempt again.

> > >>
> > >> As shown above, the process will acquire cpuid twice and the return values
> > >> are not the same.
> > >>
> > >> To fix this problem using copy_from_user_nofault instead of
> > >> __copy_from_user_inatomic, as the former performs 'access_ok' before
> > >> copying.
> > >>
> > >> Fixes: 656c7f0d2d2b ("tracing: Replace kmap with copy_from_user() in trace_marker writing")  
> > > The above commit was intorduced in 2016. copy_from_user_nofault() was
> > > introduced in 2020. I don't think this would be the fix for that kernel.
> > >
> > > So no, I'm not taking this patch. If you see __copy_from_user_inatomic()
> > > sleeping, it's users are not the issue. That function is.


BTW, the biggest difference between __copy_from_user() and
 __copy_from_user_inatomic() is `might_fault()` and `should_fail_usercopy()`.
The latter is a fault injection, so we can ignore it. But since
the `might_fail()` is NOT in __copy_from_user_inatomic(), it is designed
not to cause fault as Steve said?

Thank you,

-- 
Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-09-01 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-19 10:51 Luo Gengkun
2025-08-19 17:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-08-29  8:29   ` Luo Gengkun
2025-08-29 12:26     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-08-29 12:36       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-08-29 19:53         ` Catalin Marinas
2025-08-29 22:13           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-08-30 10:22             ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-01  9:56               ` Mark Rutland
2025-09-01 12:28                 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-01 13:07                   ` Mark Rutland
2025-09-01  9:43             ` Mark Rutland
2025-09-02 14:11               ` Steven Rostedt
2025-09-01 16:01             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-09-01 15:56       ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2025-09-02  3:47         ` Luo Gengkun
2025-09-02  7:35           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-09-02 14:14           ` Steven Rostedt

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