From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Youling Tang <youling.tang@linux.dev>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, chizhiling@163.com,
Youling Tang <tangyouling@kylinos.cn>,
Chi Zhiling <chizhiling@kylinos.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/filemap: Align last_index to folio size
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2025 15:50:46 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250903155046.bd82ae87ab9d30fe32ace2a6@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <afff8170-eed3-4c5c-8cc7-1595ccd32052@linux.dev>
On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 17:08:53 +0800 Youling Tang <youling.tang@linux.dev> wrote:
> Hi, Jan
> On 2025/7/14 17:33, Jan Kara wrote:
> > On Fri 11-07-25 13:55:09, Youling Tang wrote:
> >> From: Youling Tang <tangyouling@kylinos.cn>
>
> ...
>
> >> --- a/mm/filemap.c
> >> +++ b/mm/filemap.c
> >> @@ -2584,8 +2584,9 @@ static int filemap_get_pages(struct kiocb *iocb, size_t count,
> >> unsigned int flags;
> >> int err = 0;
> >>
> >> - /* "last_index" is the index of the page beyond the end of the read */
> >> - last_index = DIV_ROUND_UP(iocb->ki_pos + count, PAGE_SIZE);
> >> + /* "last_index" is the index of the folio beyond the end of the read */
> >> + last_index = round_up(iocb->ki_pos + count, mapping_min_folio_nrbytes(mapping));
> >> + last_index >>= PAGE_SHIFT;
> > I think that filemap_get_pages() shouldn't be really trying to guess what
> > readahead code needs and round last_index based on min folio order. After
> > all the situation isn't special for LBS filesystems. It can also happen
> > that the readahead mark ends up in the middle of large folio for other
> > reasons. In fact, we already do have code in page_cache_ra_order() ->
> > ra_alloc_folio() that handles rounding of index where mark should be placed
> > so your changes essentially try to outsmart that code which is not good. I
> > think the solution should really be placed in page_cache_ra_order() +
> > ra_alloc_folio() instead.
> >
> > In fact the problem you are trying to solve was kind of introduced (or at
> > least made more visible) by my commit ab4443fe3ca62 ("readahead: avoid
> > multiple marked readahead pages"). There I've changed the code to round the
> > index down because I've convinced myself it doesn't matter and rounding
> > down is easier to handle in that place. But your example shows there are
> > cases where rounding down has weird consequences and rounding up would have
> > been better. So I think we need to come up with a method how to round up
> > the index of marked folio to fix your case without reintroducing problems
> > mentioned in commit ab4443fe3ca62.
> Yes, I simply replaced round_up() in ra_alloc_folio() with round_down()
> to avoid this phenomenon before submitting this patch.
>
> But at present, I haven't found a suitable way to solve both of these
> problems
> simultaneously. Do you have a better solution on your side?
>
fyi, this patch remains stuck in mm.git awaiting resolution.
Do we have any information regarding its importance? Which means do we
have any measurement of its effect upon any real-world workload?
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-03 22:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-11 5:55 Youling Tang
2025-07-11 16:08 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-14 8:16 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-07-14 9:33 ` Jan Kara
2025-08-12 9:08 ` Youling Tang
2025-09-03 22:50 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2025-09-04 2:04 ` Youling Tang
2025-09-05 12:50 ` Jan Kara
2025-09-09 6:15 ` Youling Tang
2025-09-09 6:41 ` Andrew Morton
2025-07-14 22:34 ` Klara Modin
2025-07-14 22:43 ` Andrew Morton
2025-07-14 22:48 ` Klara Modin
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