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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>
Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan94@gmail.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>,
	Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	kuyo chang <kuyo.chang@mediatek.com>, hupu <hupu.gm@gmail.com>,
	kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] sched/deadline: Fix dl_server getting stuck, allowing cpu starvation
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2025 23:30:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250916213036.GC2800598@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANDhNCqJbnemY8EBYu=4w3ABfrDkuc+dUShDDcjufFpsh7qv1g@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 10:35:46AM -0700, John Stultz wrote:
> I of course still see the thread spawning issues with my
> ksched_football test that come from keeping the dl_server running for
> the whole period, but that's a separate thing I'm trying to isolate.

So what happens with that football thing -- you're saying thread
spawning issues, so kthread_create() is not making progress?

You're also saying 'keeping the dl_server running for the whole period',
are you seeing it not being limited to its allocated bandwidth?

Per the bug today, the dl_server does get throttled, not sufficiently?

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-16 21:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-02 11:49 [PATCH v2 00/12] sched: Address schbench regression Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-02 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] sched/psi: Optimize psi_group_change() cpu_clock() usage Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-15 19:11   ` Chris Mason
2025-07-16  6:06     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-07-16  6:53     ` Beata Michalska
2025-07-16 10:40       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-16 14:54         ` Johannes Weiner
2025-07-16 16:27         ` Chris Mason
2025-07-23  4:16         ` Aithal, Srikanth
2025-07-25  5:13         ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-07-02 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] sched/deadline: Less agressive dl_server handling Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-02 16:12   ` Juri Lelli
2025-07-10 12:46   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-14 22:56   ` [PATCH v2 02/12] " Mel Gorman
2025-07-15 14:55     ` Chris Mason
2025-07-16 18:19       ` Mel Gorman
2025-07-30  9:34   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-07-30  9:46     ` Juri Lelli
2025-07-30 10:05       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-08-05 22:03   ` Chris Bainbridge
2025-08-05 23:04     ` Chris Bainbridge
2025-09-15 22:29   ` John Stultz
2025-09-16  4:18     ` John Stultz
2025-09-16  5:28       ` [RFC][PATCH] sched/deadline: Fix dl_server getting stuck, allowing cpu starvation John Stultz
2025-09-16  8:51         ` Juri Lelli
2025-09-16 11:01           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-16 12:52             ` Juri Lelli
2025-09-16 14:30               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-16 17:35             ` John Stultz
2025-09-16 21:30               ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2025-09-17  3:29                 ` John Stultz
2025-09-17  9:34                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-17 12:26                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-17 13:56                       ` Juri Lelli
2025-09-17 17:30                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-18  8:37                           ` Juri Lelli
2025-09-18  9:04                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-18  9:42                               ` Juri Lelli
2025-09-17 19:29                       ` John Stultz
2025-09-18  6:56                       ` [tip: sched/urgent] sched/deadline: Fix dl_server behaviour tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-25  7:55                       ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-18  6:56             ` [tip: sched/urgent] sched/deadline: Fix dl_server getting stuck tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-18 14:46               ` Dietmar Eggemann
     [not found]               ` <CGME20250922215704eucas1p1f53a65a5cd1eafd3e0db006653231efd@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2025-09-22 21:57                 ` Marek Szyprowski
2025-09-22 23:46                   ` John Stultz
2025-09-23  6:31                     ` Marek Szyprowski
2025-09-23  7:25                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-23  7:52                     ` Marek Szyprowski
2025-09-23 22:02                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-29 15:19                     ` Marek Szyprowski
     [not found]                     ` <eae77bd0-d874-4ddf-88d7-c1ab75358f91@samsung.com>
2025-10-09  8:35                       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-10-09  9:26                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-09 11:42                         ` Marek Szyprowski
2025-09-25  7:55             ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-02 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] sched: Optimize ttwu() / select_task_rq() Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-10 16:47   ` Vincent Guittot
2025-07-14 22:59   ` Mel Gorman
2025-07-02 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] sched: Use lock guard in ttwu_runnable() Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-10 16:48   ` Vincent Guittot
2025-07-14 23:00   ` Mel Gorman
2025-07-02 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] sched: Add ttwu_queue controls Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-10 16:51   ` Vincent Guittot
2025-07-14 23:14   ` Mel Gorman
2025-07-02 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] sched: Introduce ttwu_do_migrate() Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-10 16:51   ` Vincent Guittot
2025-07-02 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] psi: Split psi_ttwu_dequeue() Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-17 23:59   ` Chris Mason
2025-07-18 18:02     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] sched: Re-arrange __ttwu_queue_wakelist() Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-02 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] sched: Clean up ttwu comments Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-02 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] sched: Use lock guard in sched_ttwu_pending() Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-10 16:51   ` Vincent Guittot
2025-07-02 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] sched: Change ttwu_runnable() vs sched_delayed Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-02 11:49 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] sched: Add ttwu_queue support for delayed tasks Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-03 16:00   ` Phil Auld
2025-07-03 16:47     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-03 17:11       ` Phil Auld
2025-07-14 13:57         ` Phil Auld
2025-07-04  6:13       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-07-04  7:59         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-08 12:44   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-07-08 18:57     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-08 21:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-23  5:42   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-07-02 15:27 ` [PATCH v2 00/12] sched: Address schbench regression Chris Mason
2025-07-07  9:05 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-07-07  9:11   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-07  9:38     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-07-16 13:46       ` Phil Auld
2025-07-17 17:25         ` Phil Auld
2025-07-07 18:19   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-07-08 19:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-09 16:46       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-07-14 17:54       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-07-21 19:37       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-07-22 20:20         ` Chris Mason
2025-07-24 18:23           ` Chris Mason
2025-07-08 15:09   ` Chris Mason
2025-07-08 17:29     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-07-17 13:04 ` Beata Michalska
2025-07-17 16:57   ` Beata Michalska

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