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From: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
To: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>
Cc: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	 Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
	 Simona Vetter <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	Andrzej Hajda <andrzej.hajda@intel.com>,
	 Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
	Robert Foss <rfoss@kernel.org>,
	 Laurent Pinchart <Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Jonas Karlman <jonas@kwiboo.se>,
	 Jernej Skrabec <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	Jyri Sarha <jyri.sarha@iki.fi>,
	 Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com>,
	Devarsh Thakkar <devarsht@ti.com>,
	 dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/29] drm/atomic: Add atomic_state_readout infrastructure
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2025 11:53:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250924-truthful-armored-jacamar-bb3efd@penduick> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <osdt4teotc6qvja734dyo7be35nzy5lo4sw4dcniaqicqb3o5l@gabq5adeliha>

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On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 01:28:57PM +0300, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 11:38:17AM +0200, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 09:38:44PM +0300, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 10:42:22AM +0200, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > > > Hi Tohmas,
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, Sep 02, 2025 at 03:44:54PM +0200, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> > > > > > +/**
> > > > > > + * drm_atomic_build_readout_state - Creates an initial state from the hardware
> > > > > > + * @dev: DRM device to build the state for
> > > > > > + *
> > > > > > + * This function allocates a &struct drm_atomic_state, calls the
> > > > > > + * atomic_readout_state callbacks, and fills the global state old states
> > > > > > + * by what the callbacks returned.
> > > > > > + *
> > > > > > + * Returns:
> > > > > > + *
> > > > > > + * A partially initialized &struct drm_atomic_state on success, an error
> > > > > > + * pointer otherwise.
> > > > > > + */
> > > > > > +static struct drm_atomic_state *
> > > > > > +drm_atomic_build_readout_state(struct drm_device *dev)
> > > > > > +{
> > > > > > +	struct drm_connector_list_iter conn_iter;
> > > > > > +	struct drm_atomic_state *state;
> > > > > > +	struct drm_mode_config *config =
> > > > > > +		&dev->mode_config;
> > > > > > +	struct drm_connector *connector;
> > > > > > +	struct drm_printer p =
> > > > > > +		drm_info_printer(dev->dev);
> > > > > > +	struct drm_encoder *encoder;
> > > > > > +	struct drm_plane *plane;
> > > > > > +	struct drm_crtc *crtc;
> > > > > > +	int ret;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	drm_dbg_kms(dev, "Starting to build atomic state from hardware state.\n");
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	state = drm_atomic_state_alloc(dev);
> > > > > > +	if (WARN_ON(!state))
> > > > > > +		return ERR_PTR(-ENOMEM);
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	state->connectors = kcalloc(config->num_connector, sizeof(*state->connectors), GFP_KERNEL);
> > > > > > +	if (WARN_ON(!state->connectors)) {
> > > > > > +		ret = -ENOMEM;
> > > > > > +		goto err_state_put;
> > > > > > +	}
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	state->private_objs = kcalloc(count_private_obj(dev), sizeof(*state->private_objs), GFP_KERNEL);
> > > > > > +	if (WARN_ON(!state->private_objs)) {
> > > > > > +		ret = -ENOMEM;
> > > > > > +		goto err_state_put;
> > > > > > +	}
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	drm_for_each_crtc(crtc, dev) {
> > > > > > +		const struct drm_crtc_funcs *crtc_funcs =
> > > > > > +			crtc->funcs;
> > > > > > +		struct drm_crtc_state *crtc_state;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +		drm_dbg_kms(dev, "Initializing CRTC %s state.\n", crtc->name);
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +		if (crtc_funcs->atomic_readout_state) {
> > > > > > +			crtc_state = crtc_funcs->atomic_readout_state(crtc);
> > > > > > +		} else if (crtc_funcs->reset) {
> > > > > > +			crtc_funcs->reset(crtc);
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +			/*
> > > > > > +			 * We don't want to set crtc->state field yet. Let's save and clear it up.
> > > > > > +			 */
> > > > > > +			crtc_state = crtc->state;
> > > > > > +			crtc->state = NULL;
> > > > > 
> > > > > Chancing the crtc->state pointer behind the back of the reset callback seems
> > > > > fragile. We never how if some other piece of the driver refers to it
> > > > > (although illegally).
> > > > 
> > > > I agree that it's clunky. I'm not sure who would use it at this point
> > > > though: we're in the middle of the drm_mode_config_reset(), so the
> > > > drivers' involvement is pretty minimal.
> > > > 
> > > > I did wonder if changing reset to return the object instead of setting
> > > > $OBJECT->state would be a better interface?
> > > > 
> > > > > For now, wouldn't it be better to require a read-out helper for all elements
> > > > > of the driver's mode-setting pipeline?  The trivial implementation would
> > > > > copy the existing reset function and keep crtc->state to NULL.
> > > > 
> > > > I also considered that, but I'm not sure we can expect bridges to have
> > > > readout hooks filled for every configuration in the wild.
> > > > 
> > > > But maybe we can look during drm_mode_config_reset() at whether all the
> > > > objects have their hook filled, and if not fall back on reset for
> > > > everything.
> > > > 
> > > > It would make the implementation easier, but missing bridges
> > > > implementations would trigger a mode change when it might actually work
> > > > just fine since bridge state is pretty minimal.
> > > 
> > > DP bridge drivers have a pretty big state (DPCD and all the features).
> > 
> > I meant drm_bridge_state. Subclasses would have their own implementation
> > anyway.
> > 
> > > Other bridge drivers randomly leak state to the non-state structs.
> > 
> > I'm not sure what you mean by that though. Can you expand?
> 
> I think I've seen bridge drivers which stored subclassed drm_bridge
> instead of drm_bridge_state or stored the data in the long-living data
> structures. YEs, that's a bug, which should be fixed on its own.

Yeah, I'm not sure how we can defend against that. If the driver doesn't
handle the state well, then it's a driver's problem, and it would
probably create other problems anyway

Maxime

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-09-24  9:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-02  8:32 [PATCH 00/29] drm: Implement state readout support Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 01/29] drm/atomic: Document atomic state lifetime Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:08   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02 18:59     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-23  9:22     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 02/29] drm/atomic: Fix unused but set warning in for_each_old_plane_in_state Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:10   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02 19:25   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 03/29] drm/atomic: Fix unused but set warning in for_each_old_private_obj_in_state Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:10   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02 19:26   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 04/29] drm/atomic_helper: Skip over NULL private_obj pointers Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:13   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02 19:29     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-23  9:23     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 05/29] drm/atomic_state_helper: Fix bridge state initialization Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:18   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-15 11:27     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-15 13:12       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-23  9:33         ` Maxime Ripard
2025-10-01  6:45           ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-15 12:54     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-02 19:49   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 06/29] drm/bridge: Implement atomic_print_state Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:22   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02 20:22     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-15 11:28       ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-15 12:56         ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 07/29] drm/atomic: Implement drm_atomic_print_old_state Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:26   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-09 12:44     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 20:35   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 08/29] drm/atomic: Only call atomic_destroy_state on a !NULL pointer Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:30   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02 20:52   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-15 11:35     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 09/29] drm/modeset: Create atomic_reset hook Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 21:04   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-15 11:37     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 10/29] drm/atomic: Add atomic_state_readout infrastructure Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:44   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-15  8:42     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-15  9:11       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-23  9:37         ` Maxime Ripard
2025-10-01  7:01           ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-15 18:38       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-23  9:38         ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-23 10:28           ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-23 10:32             ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-23 10:43               ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-23 11:41                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-23 15:20                   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-24  9:56               ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-24  9:53             ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2025-09-15 18:40   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-23  9:45     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-23 10:30       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-10-17 13:12         ` Simona Vetter
2025-10-17 13:29   ` Simona Vetter
2025-10-17 13:41   ` Simona Vetter
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 11/29] drm/crtc: Drop no_vblank bit field Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:45   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-30 10:00   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 12/29] drm/atomic_helper: Pass nonblock to commit_tail Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:46   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 13/29] drm/atomic_helper: Compare actual and readout states once the commit is done Maxime Ripard
2025-10-17 13:21   ` Simona Vetter
2025-10-21  9:27   ` Simona Vetter
2025-10-31 21:01   ` Simona Vetter
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 14/29] drm/atomic_state_helper: Provide comparison macros Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 15/29] drm/atomic_state_helper: Provide atomic_compare_state helpers Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 16/29] drm/encoder: Create get_current_crtc hook Maxime Ripard
2025-10-17 13:19   ` Simona Vetter
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 17/29] drm/bridge_connector: Implement hw readout for connector Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 18/29] drm/tidss: Convert to drm logging Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:49   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-30 10:00   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 19/29] drm/tidss: Remove ftrace-like logs Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:50   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-30 10:00   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 20/29] drm/tidss: crtc: Change variable name Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:51   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-30 10:00   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 21/29] drm/tidss: crtc: Implement destroy_state Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:52   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-30 10:00   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 22/29] drm/tidss: crtc: Cleanup reset implementation Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:54   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-30 10:00   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 23/29] drm/tidss: dispc: Add format lookup by hw value Maxime Ripard
2025-10-08 12:40   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 24/29] drm/tidss: dispc: Improve mode checking logs Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 14:06   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 25/29] drm/tidss: dispc: Move dispc_device definition to headers Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 26/29] drm/tidss: dispc: make accessors accessible to other parts of the driver Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 27/29] drm/tidss: Implement readout support Maxime Ripard
2025-10-08 12:44   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 28/29] drm/tidss: encoder: implement get_current_crtc Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 29/29] drm/bridge: sii902x: Implement hw state readout Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 14:13 ` [PATCH 00/29] drm: Implement state readout support Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-23  9:15   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-10-17 13:11     ` Simona Vetter
2025-10-08 13:07 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-10-08 13:57   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-10-08 14:15     ` Tomi Valkeinen

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