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From: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
To: Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/4] mm/page_alloc: Perform appropriate batching in drain_pages_zone
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2025 08:46:15 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250927004617.7667-1-hdanton@sina.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250924204409.1706524-3-joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>

On Wed, 24 Sep 2025 13:44:06 -0700 Joshua Hahn wrote:
> drain_pages_zone completely drains a zone of its pcp free pages by
> repeatedly calling free_pcppages_bulk until pcp->count reaches 0.
> In this loop, it already performs batched calls to ensure that
> free_pcppages_bulk isn't called to free too many pages at once, and
> relinquishes & reacquires the lock between each call to prevent
> lock starvation from other processes.
> 
> However, the current batching does not prevent lock starvation. The
> current implementation creates batches of
> pcp->batch << CONFIG_PCP_BATCH_SCALE_MAX, which has been seen in
> Meta workloads to be up to 64 << 5 == 2048 pages.
> 
> While it is true that CONFIG_PCP_BATCH_SCALE_MAX is a config and
> indeed can be adjusted by the system admin to be any number from
> 0 to 6, it's default value of 5 is still too high to be reasonable for
> any system.
> 
> Instead, let's create batches of pcp->batch pages, which gives a more
> reasonable 64 pages per call to free_pcppages_bulk. This gives other
> processes a chance to grab the lock and prevents starvation. Each

Feel free to make it clear, which lock is contended, pcp->lock or
zone->lock, or both, to help understand the starvation.

If the zone lock is hot, why did numa node fail to mitigate the contension,
given workloads tested with high sustained memory pressure on large machines
in the Meta fleet (1Tb memory, 316 CPUs)?

Can the contension be observed with tight memory pressure but not highly tight? 
If not, it is due to misconfigure in the user space, no?

> individual call to drain_pages_zone may take longer, but we avoid the
> worst case scenario of completely starving out other system-critical
> threads from acquiring the pcp lock while 2048 pages are freed
> one-by-one.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-09-27  0:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-24 20:44 [PATCH v2 0/4] mm/page_alloc: Batch callers of free_pcppages_bulk Joshua Hahn
2025-09-24 20:44 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] mm/page_alloc/vmstat: Simplify refresh_cpu_vm_stats change detection Joshua Hahn
2025-09-24 22:51   ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2025-09-25 18:26     ` Joshua Hahn
2025-09-26 15:34   ` Dan Carpenter
2025-09-26 16:40     ` Joshua Hahn
2025-09-26 17:50   ` SeongJae Park
2025-09-26 18:24     ` Joshua Hahn
2025-09-26 18:33       ` SeongJae Park
2025-09-24 20:44 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] mm/page_alloc: Perform appropriate batching in drain_pages_zone Joshua Hahn
2025-09-24 23:09   ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2025-09-25 18:44     ` Joshua Hahn
2025-09-26 16:21       ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2025-09-26 17:25         ` Joshua Hahn
2025-10-01 11:23         ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-26 14:01   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-26 15:48     ` Joshua Hahn
2025-09-26 16:57       ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-26 17:33         ` Joshua Hahn
2025-09-27  0:46   ` Hillf Danton [this message]
2025-09-30 14:42     ` Joshua Hahn
2025-09-30 22:14       ` Hillf Danton
2025-10-01 15:37         ` Joshua Hahn
2025-10-01 23:48           ` Hillf Danton
2025-10-03  8:35             ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-03 10:02               ` Hillf Danton
2025-10-04  9:03                 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-24 20:44 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] mm/page_alloc: Batch page freeing in decay_pcp_high Joshua Hahn
2025-09-24 20:44 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] mm/page_alloc: Batch page freeing in free_frozen_page_commit Joshua Hahn
2025-09-28  5:17   ` kernel test robot
2025-09-29 15:17     ` Joshua Hahn
2025-10-01 10:04       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-01 15:55         ` Joshua Hahn

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