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From: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
To: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>
Cc: brauner@kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, jack@suse.cz,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fs: add missing fences to I_NEW handling
Date: Mon,  6 Oct 2025 15:21:08 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251006072136.8236-1-hdanton@sina.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGudoHFi-9qYPnb9xPtGsUq+Mf_8h+uk4iQDo1TggZYPgTv6fA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 03:16:43 +0200 Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 2:57 AM Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com> wrote:
> > On Mon,  6 Oct 2025 01:15:26 +0200 Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> > > Suppose there are 2 CPUs racing inode hash lookup func (say ilookup5())
> > > and unlock_new_inode().
> > >
> > > In principle the latter can clear the I_NEW flag before prior stores
> > > into the inode were made visible.
> > >
> > Given difficulty following up here, could you specify why the current
> > mem barrier [1] in unlock_new_inode() is not enough?
> >
> That fence synchronizes against threads which went to sleep.
> 
> In the example I'm providing this did not happen.
> 
>   193 static inline void wait_on_inode(struct inode *inode)
>   194 {
>   195         wait_var_event(inode_state_wait_address(inode, __I_NEW),
>   196                       !(READ_ONCE(inode->i_state) & I_NEW));
> 
>   303 #define wait_var_event(var, condition)                                  \
>   304 do {                                                                    \
>   305         might_sleep();                                                  \
>   306         if (condition)                                                  \
>   307                 break;                                                  \
> 
> I_NEW is tested here without any locks or fences.
> 
Thanks, got it but given the comment of the current mem barrier in
unlock_new_inode(), why did peterZ/Av leave such a huge chance behind?

The condition check in wait_var_event() matches waitqueue_active() in
__wake_up_bit(), and both make it run fast on both the waiter and the
waker sides, no?

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-06  7:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-05 23:15 Mateusz Guzik
2025-10-06  0:56 ` Hillf Danton
2025-10-06  1:16   ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-10-06  7:21     ` Hillf Danton [this message]
2025-10-06 10:30       ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-10-06 13:15         ` Hillf Danton
2025-10-06 11:37 ` Christian Brauner
2025-10-06 12:15 ` Jan Kara
2025-10-06 12:20   ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-10-06 12:32     ` Jan Kara

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