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From: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] KVM: VMX: Flush CPU buffers as needed if L1D cache flush is skipped
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2025 16:18:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251021231831.lofzy6frinusrd5s@desk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251016200417.97003-2-seanjc@google.com>

On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 01:04:14PM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> If the L1D flush for L1TF is conditionally enabled, flush CPU buffers to
> mitigate MMIO Stale Data as needed if KVM skips the L1D flush, e.g.
> because none of the "heavy" paths that trigger an L1D flush were tripped
> since the last VM-Enter.
>
> Note, the flaw goes back to the introduction of the MDS mitigation.

I don't think it is a flaw. If L1D flush was skipped because VMexit did not
touch any interested data, then there shouldn't be any need to flush CPU
buffers.

Secondly, when L1D flush is skipped, flushing MDS affected buffers is of no
use, because the data could still be extracted from L1D cache using L1TF.
Isn't it?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-21 23:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-16 20:04 [PATCH v3 0/4] KVM: VMX: Unify L1D flush for L1TF Sean Christopherson
2025-10-16 20:04 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] KVM: VMX: Flush CPU buffers as needed if L1D cache flush is skipped Sean Christopherson
2025-10-21 13:34   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-21 16:48     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-21 23:30       ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-22  1:20         ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-27 22:03           ` Jim Mattson
2025-10-27 23:17             ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-27 23:58               ` Jim Mattson
2025-10-28  0:19                 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-28  0:49                   ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-27 21:09         ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-21 23:18   ` Pawan Gupta [this message]
2025-10-22  1:59     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-22 15:04       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-16 20:04 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] KVM: VMX: Bundle all L1 data cache flush mitigation code together Sean Christopherson
2025-10-21 13:38   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-16 20:04 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] KVM: VMX: Disable L1TF L1 data cache flush if CONFIG_CPU_MITIGATIONS=n Sean Christopherson
2025-10-22  1:36   ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-22 15:06     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-16 20:04 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] KVM: x86: Unify L1TF flushing under per-CPU variable Sean Christopherson
2025-10-22  1:59   ` Pawan Gupta

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