From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Prakash Sangappa <prakash.sangappa@oracle.com>,
Madadi Vineeth Reddy <vineethr@linux.ibm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch V2 08/12] rseq: Implement time slice extension enforcement timer
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2025 10:00:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251028090015.hcvhq9YP@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <db7f7264-6ccf-4f55-929a-4c2e813dd8f5@amd.com>
On 2025-10-28 14:21:24 [+0530], K Prateek Nayak wrote:
> Hello Sebastian,
>
> On 10/28/2025 2:03 PM, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > On 2025-10-27 17:26:29 [+0100], Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> >> On Mon, Oct 27 2025 at 12:38, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> >>> On 2025-10-22 14:57:38 [+0200], Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> >>>> +static enum hrtimer_restart rseq_slice_expired(struct hrtimer *tmr)
> >>>> +{
> >>>> + struct slice_timer *st = container_of(tmr, struct slice_timer, timer);
> >>>> +
> >>>> + if (st->cookie == current && current->rseq.slice.state.granted) {
> >>>> + rseq_stat_inc(rseq_stats.s_expired);
> >>>> + set_need_resched_current();
> >>>> + }
> >>>
> >>> You arm the timer while leaving to userland. Once in userland the task
> >>> can be migrated to another CPU. Once migrated, this CPU can host another
> >>> task while the timer fires and does nothing.
> >>
> >> That's inevitable. If the scheduler decides to do that then there is
> >> nothing which can be done about it and that's why the cookie pointer
> >> exists.
> >
> > Without an interrupt on the target CPU, there is nothing stopping the
> > task from overstepping its fair share.
>
> When the task moves CPU, the rseq_exit_user_update() would clear all
> of the slice extension state before running the task again. The task
> will start off again with "rseq->slice_ctrl.request" and
> "rseq->slice_ctrl.granted" both at 0 signifying the task was
> rescheduled.
I wasn't aware this is done once the task is in userland and then
relocated to another CPU.
> As for overstepping the limits on the previous CPU, the EEVDF
> algorithm (using the task's "vlag" - the vruntime deviation from the
> "avg_vruntime") would penalize it accordingly when enqueued.
So it wouldn't be the initial delay which is enforced by the timer, but
the regular scheduler that would put an end to it. Somehow forgot that
we still have a scheduler…
> The previous CPU would just get a spurious interrupt and since the
> timer cookie doesn't match with "current", the handler does
> nothing and goes away.
Yeah, that is fine.
Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-28 9:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-22 12:57 [patch V2 00/12] rseq: Implement time slice extension mechanism Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 01/12] sched: Provide and use set_need_resched_current() Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-27 8:59 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-27 11:13 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 02/12] rseq: Add fields and constants for time slice extension Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 17:28 ` Randy Dunlap
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 03/12] rseq: Provide static branch for time slice extensions Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-27 9:29 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 04/12] rseq: Add statistics " Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 05/12] rseq: Add prctl() to enable " Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-27 9:40 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 06/12] rseq: Implement sys_rseq_slice_yield() Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 07/12] rseq: Implement syscall entry work for time slice extensions Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 08/12] rseq: Implement time slice extension enforcement timer Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-27 11:38 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-27 16:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-28 8:33 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-28 8:51 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-28 9:00 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2025-10-28 9:22 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-28 10:22 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-28 13:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 09/12] rseq: Reset slice extension when scheduled Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 10/12] rseq: Implement rseq_grant_slice_extension() Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 11/12] entry: Hook up rseq time slice extension Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-22 12:57 ` [patch V2 12/12] selftests/rseq: Implement time slice extension test Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-27 17:30 ` [patch V2 00/12] rseq: Implement time slice extension mechanism Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-27 18:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-28 8:53 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
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