From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: mingo@kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
vschneid@redhat.com, bigeasy@linutronix.de, clrkwllms@kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: [PATCH] sched: Further restrict the preemption modes
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 11:15:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251219101502.GB1132199@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
[ with 6.18 being an LTS release, it might be a good time for this ]
The introduction of PREEMPT_LAZY was for multiple reasons:
- PREEMPT_RT suffered from over-scheduling, hurting performance compared to
!PREEMPT_RT.
- the introduction of (more) features that rely on preemption; like
folio_zero_user() which can do large memset() without preemption checks.
(Xen already had a horrible hack to deal with long running hypercalls)
- the endless and uncontrolled sprinkling of cond_resched() -- mostly cargo
cult or in response to poor to replicate workloads.
By moving to a model that is fundamentally preemptable these things become
manageable and avoid needing to introduce more horrible hacks.
Since this is a requirement; limit PREEMPT_NONE to architectures that do not
support preemption at all. Further limit PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY to those
architectures that do not yet have PREEMPT_LAZY support (with the eventual goal
to make this the empty set and completely remove voluntary preemption and
cond_resched() -- notably VOLUNTARY is already limited to !ARCH_NO_PREEMPT.)
This leaves up-to-date architectures (arm64, loongarch, powerpc, riscv, s390,
x86) with only two preemption models: full and lazy (like PREEMPT_RT).
While Lazy has been the recommended setting for a while, not all distributions
have managed to make the switch yet. Force things along. Keep the patch minimal
in case of hard to address regressions that might pop up.
Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) <peterz@infradead.org>
---
kernel/Kconfig.preempt | 3 +++
kernel/sched/core.c | 2 +-
kernel/sched/debug.c | 2 +-
3 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
--- a/kernel/Kconfig.preempt
+++ b/kernel/Kconfig.preempt
@@ -16,11 +16,13 @@ config ARCH_HAS_PREEMPT_LAZY
choice
prompt "Preemption Model"
+ default PREEMPT_LAZY if ARCH_HAS_PREEMPT_LAZY
default PREEMPT_NONE
config PREEMPT_NONE
bool "No Forced Preemption (Server)"
depends on !PREEMPT_RT
+ depends on ARCH_NO_PREEMPT
select PREEMPT_NONE_BUILD if !PREEMPT_DYNAMIC
help
This is the traditional Linux preemption model, geared towards
@@ -35,6 +37,7 @@ config PREEMPT_NONE
config PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY
bool "Voluntary Kernel Preemption (Desktop)"
+ depends on !ARCH_HAS_PREEMPT_LAZY
depends on !ARCH_NO_PREEMPT
depends on !PREEMPT_RT
select PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY_BUILD if !PREEMPT_DYNAMIC
--- a/kernel/sched/core.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
@@ -7553,7 +7553,7 @@ int preempt_dynamic_mode = preempt_dynam
int sched_dynamic_mode(const char *str)
{
-# ifndef CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT
+# if !(defined(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT) || defined(CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_PREEMPT_LAZY))
if (!strcmp(str, "none"))
return preempt_dynamic_none;
--- a/kernel/sched/debug.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/debug.c
@@ -243,7 +243,7 @@ static ssize_t sched_dynamic_write(struc
static int sched_dynamic_show(struct seq_file *m, void *v)
{
- int i = IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT) * 2;
+ int i = (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT) || IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_PREEMPT_LAZY)) * 2;
int j;
/* Count entries in NULL terminated preempt_modes */
next reply other threads:[~2025-12-19 10:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-19 10:15 Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-01-06 15:23 ` Valentin Schneider
2026-01-06 16:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-09 11:23 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-02-25 10:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-25 12:56 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-02-26 0:48 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-26 5:30 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-02-26 17:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-27 9:09 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-02-27 14:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-27 15:28 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-03-09 9:13 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-01-12 8:03 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-24 15:45 ` [PATCH] " Ciunas Bennett
2026-02-24 17:11 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-25 9:56 ` Ciunas Bennett
2026-02-25 2:30 ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2026-02-25 16:33 ` Christian Borntraeger
2026-02-25 18:30 ` Douglas Freimuth
2026-03-03 9:15 ` Ciunas Bennett
2026-03-03 11:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-05 10:43 ` Ciunas Bennett
2026-06-05 10:52 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-05 11:01 ` Ciunas Bennett
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