From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 632CF3F0767; Tue, 20 Jan 2026 10:34:31 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1768905271; cv=none; b=txrIbon5uBjfXD1k3rp+C8FMswsf75Nj/iaybjhdbzSwuac15QF+RnZTjspIQKjt2WOT4hR15JkECOyyJDVeIWDvSJ1VuQ5v67GJFmi7TGxuQQkD8gJ0+Sr+JTYzo3yuhH42b7dCMNSWHl0RIXgr7tshTjcVOnJ1rYRIpSDz0lA= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1768905271; c=relaxed/simple; bh=ofM75JqEotc0v7XRCKkNO2AMeaUn3xH4tlqNjm8W0YQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=VKNv7NH0u39ycOWk5ybv9OhrJp+Yt9gbap2XDSVL+H8FawgWfLAd8J0kJ48gKH2SxVg9gHbJAbROTtOY0cicQEg16fGCEhc4isoDTI0MU1IZmDM8c2ntQ9+MD3cQBzRiKPTGXtTuMfKmHjG6+9gL9wbvhcLtFkWlM7FwlFHSpNo= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=dkYiavwj; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="dkYiavwj" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E04B6C16AAE; Tue, 20 Jan 2026 10:34:15 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1768905271; bh=ofM75JqEotc0v7XRCKkNO2AMeaUn3xH4tlqNjm8W0YQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=dkYiavwjArBw+8JM3Doyt4vFEjXCjTBOooZATw7ybtJyDWfHOsWo6vfR+lTcrWca0 84g12kcedULlbCjwN3OhgKihsyS+8LP34glFKHjjboChPwnx87Mgd4ye5oYrptvwcU IR130p8sJwGfsM12J432DDMgzJBXrhBvvtKpy/9JDcG+rvOkHRKRbslb+hAqYozEy4 8HXCy/UDUBGKe0SB1WSHTXCGpraNDHfp54t2En1JQCop3QwMKo4TzMN4znHIRfj92N 0amrFzP0cYXKJTlNdj7dkkgVOhyK03N9xYYfKakG8ehUjpIPXdBq3+jcGxXnzZWvCP JUo4/sRFClXEw== Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2026 11:34:13 +0100 From: Christian Brauner To: NeilBrown Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Jeff Layton , Amir Goldstein , Alexander Viro , Chuck Lever , Olga Kornievskaia , Dai Ngo , Tom Talpey , Hugh Dickins , Baolin Wang , Andrew Morton , Theodore Ts'o , Andreas Dilger , Jan Kara , Gao Xiang , Chao Yu , Yue Hu , Jeffle Xu , Sandeep Dhavale , Hongbo Li , Chunhai Guo , Carlos Maiolino , Ilya Dryomov , Alex Markuze , Viacheslav Dubeyko , Chris Mason , David Sterba , Luis de Bethencourt , Salah Triki , Phillip Lougher , Steve French , Paulo Alcantara , Ronnie Sahlberg , Shyam Prasad N , Bharath SM , Miklos Szeredi , Mike Marshall , Martin Brandenburg , Mark Fasheh , Joel Becker , Joseph Qi , Konstantin Komarov , Ryusuke Konishi , Trond Myklebust , Anna Schumaker , Dave Kleikamp , David Woodhouse , Richard Weinberger , Jan Kara , Andreas Gruenbacher , OGAWA Hirofumi , Jaegeuk Kim , linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-erofs@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org, devel@lists.orangefs.org, ocfs2-devel@lists.linux.dev, ntfs3@lists.linux.dev, linux-nilfs@vger.kernel.org, jfs-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, gfs2@lists.linux.dev, linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/29] fs: require filesystems to explicitly opt-in to nfsd export support Message-ID: <20260120-bindung-eselsfell-fadec0d95909@brauner> References: <20260115-exportfs-nfsd-v1-0-8e80160e3c0c@kernel.org> <9c99197dde2eafa55a1b55dce2f0d4d02c77340a.camel@kernel.org> <176877859306.16766.15009835437490907207@noble.neil.brown.name> <176880736225.16766.4203157325432990313@noble.neil.brown.name> <20260119-kanufahren-meerjungfrau-775048806544@brauner> <176885553525.16766.291581709413217562@noble.neil.brown.name> <176890126683.16766.5241619788613840985@noble.neil.brown.name> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <176890126683.16766.5241619788613840985@noble.neil.brown.name> > It took me a while to sift through the code/patches/comments and come to > this understanding and I apologise if I wasn't as clear earlier. But > my intuition was always that file handle stability was never the real > issue, and maintainer choice was. Hence my rejection of the I very much agree with that assessment. Yet we so far have failed to even agree that this is an acceptable position. Hence my irritation. And apologies on my part if I'm curt. I'm simply annoyed by the very lengthy and to me somewhat pointless debate here at times.