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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Bert Karwatzki <spasswolf@web.de>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	calvin@wbinvd.org, dschatzberg@meta.com, peterz@infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: ~90s reboot delay with v6.19 and PREEMPT_RT
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2026 23:31:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260225223135.vjfaFo0c@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260225165954.180aRkaV@linutronix.de>

On 2026-02-25 17:59:55 [+0100], To Bert Karwatzki wrote:
> On 2026-02-25 17:37:56 [+0100], Bert Karwatzki wrote:
> > I've done two testruns with this debug patch (The persistant log buffer works now, thanks
> > again to Steven Rostedt):
> 
> …
> > This if from PREEMPT_RT log, there*s a long pause in which cgroup_task_dead() is not called
> 
> Yeah, I don't know why. The irq-work is invoked slightly delayed so that
> part is working.
…
In the good case I have
| systemd-1818  3....2 605751us : cgroup_notify_populated: root=0 id=2382 level=5 path=/user.slice/user-0.slice/user@0.service/app.slice/ssh-agent.socket val=1
|systemct-1911  1....1 620046us : cgroup_attach_task: dst_root=0 dst_id=2382 dst_level=5 dst_path=/user.slice/user-0.slice/user@0.service/app.slice/ssh-agent.socket pid=1911 comm=(ystemctl)
|systemct-1911  1..... 642680us : sched_process_exit: comm=systemctl pid=1911 prio=120 group_dead=true
|systemct-1911  1....2 643423us : signal_generate: sig=17 errno=0 code=1 comm=systemd pid=1818 grp=1 res=0
|systemct-1911  1d..2. 643432us : sched_switch: prev_comm=systemctl prev_pid=1911 prev_prio=120 prev_state=Z ==> next_comm=systemd next_pid=1818 next_prio=120

|irq_work-29    1....2 643450us : cgroup_notify_populated: root=0 id=2382 level=5 path=/user.slice/user-0.slice/user@0.service/app.slice/ssh-agent.socket val=0
|irq_work-29    1....2 643457us : cgroup_notify_populated: root=0 id=2229 level=4 path=/user.slice/user-0.slice/user@0.service/app.slice val=0
| systemd-1818  1....1 644548us : cgroup_rmdir: root=0 id=2382 level=5 path=/user.slice/user-0.slice/user@0.service/app.slice/ssh-agent.socket
| systemd-1818  1..... 644784us : sched_process_wait: comm=systemd pid=1911 prio=120

and in the bad case

| systemd-1828  3....2 312877us : cgroup_notify_populated: root=0 id=2419 level=5 path=/user.slice/user-0.slice/user@0.service/app.slice/ssh-agent.socket val=1
|systemct-1929  2....1 321916us : cgroup_attach_task: dst_root=0 dst_id=2419 dst_level=5 dst_path=/user.slice/user-0.slice/user@0.service/app.slice/ssh-agent.socket pid=1929 comm =(ystemctl)
|systemct-1929  1..... 341432us : sched_process_exit: comm=systemctl pid=1929 prio=120 group_dead=true
|systemct-1929  1.l..2 342623us : signal_generate: sig=17 errno=0 code=1 comm=systemd pid=1828 grp=1 res=0
|systemct-1929  1d..2. 342637us : sched_switch: prev_comm=systemctl prev_pid=1929 prev_prio=120 prev_state=Z ==> next_comm=systemd next_pid=1828 next_prio=120

| systemd-1828  1....1 343099us : signal_generate: sig=15 errno=0 code=0 comm=systemctl pid=1929 grp=1 res=1
| systemd-1828  1....1 343102us : signal_generate: sig=18 errno=0 code=0 comm=systemctl pid=1929 grp=1 res=1
| systemd-1828  1..... 343292us : sched_process_wait: comm=systemd pid=1929 prio=120
| systemd-1828  1..... 343442us : sched_process_wait: comm=systemd pid=0 prio=120

|irq_work-29    1....2 343725us : cgroup_notify_populated: root=0 id=2419 level=5 path=/user.slice/user-0.slice/user@0.service/app.slice/ssh-agent.socket val=0
| systemd-1828  1....1 90457054us : cgroup_rmdir: root=0 id=2419 level=5 path=/user.slice/user-0.slice/user@0.service/app.slice/ssh-agent.socket

Until the sched_switch, everything is the same. But then systemd-1828
(the one with the cgroup_notify_populated event) seems to get impatient
and sends a SIGTERM+SIGCONT. It gets the exit code, the
cgroup_notify_populated event is there later and just once. The
app.slice notify is missing. And the rmdir gets in much later.

Did systemd kill the app.slice at level=4? Is this relevant? I don't see
any immediate wake up or signal from within irq_work or
kernfs_notify_workfn() later on.

Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-25 22:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-04 18:11 DEBUG_ATOMIC_SLEEP spew in cgroup_task_dead() on next-20251104 Calvin Owens
2025-11-04 19:30 ` Tejun Heo
2025-11-05 15:16   ` Calvin Owens
2025-11-05 19:03     ` [PATCH cgroup/for-6.19] cgroup: Fix sleeping from invalid context warning on PREEMPT_RT Tejun Heo
2025-11-06  1:15       ` Calvin Owens
2025-11-06 17:36         ` Tejun Heo
2025-11-06 15:07       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-06 17:37         ` Tejun Heo
2025-11-06 17:46           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-06 17:55             ` Tejun Heo
2025-11-06 18:06               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-19 16:46       ` ~90s reboot delay with v6.19 and PREEMPT_RT Bert Karwatzki
2026-02-19 20:53         ` Calvin Owens
2026-02-19 23:10           ` Bert Karwatzki
2026-02-20  0:58             ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-20  9:15               ` ~90s shutdown " Bert Karwatzki
2026-02-20 15:44                 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-23  0:35                   ` Bert Karwatzki
2026-02-23  8:22                     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-23 13:36                       ` Bert Karwatzki
2026-02-23 23:36                         ` Bert Karwatzki
2026-02-24 12:44                           ` Bert Karwatzki
2026-02-24 12:58                             ` Bert Karwatzki
2026-02-24 14:20                           ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-24 15:45             ` ~90s reboot " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-25 15:43         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-25 16:37           ` Bert Karwatzki
2026-02-25 16:59             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-25 22:31               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2026-02-26 13:24                 ` Bert Karwatzki
2026-02-26 13:46                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-26 16:37                   ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-27 14:13                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-27 22:57                   ` Bert Karwatzki
2026-03-02 11:15                     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-04 19:32 ` [PATCH cgroup/for-6.19 1/2] cgroup: Convert css_set_lock from spinlock_t to raw_spinlock_t Tejun Heo
2025-11-05  7:30   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-05 16:19     ` Tejun Heo
2025-11-05  8:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-05 16:20     ` Tejun Heo
2025-11-04 19:32 ` [PATCH cgroup/for-6.19 2/2] cgroup: Convert css_set_lock locking to use cleanup guards Tejun Heo

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