From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Cc: "Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@kernel.org>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Darren Hart" <dvhart@infradead.org>,
"Davidlohr Bueso" <dave@stgolabs.net>,
"André Almeida" <andrealmeid@igalia.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] futex: Dynamically allocate futex_queues depending on nr_node_ids
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2026 15:42:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260227144203.GJ1282955@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260128101358.20954-1-kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
On Wed, Jan 28, 2026 at 10:13:58AM +0000, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
> CONFIG_NODES_SHIFT (which influences MAX_NUMNODES) is often configured
> generously by distros while the actual number of possible NUMA nodes on
> most systems is often quite conservative.
>
> Instead of reserving MAX_NUMNODES worth of space for futex_queues,
> dynamically allocate it based on "nr_node_ids" at the time of
> futex_init().
>
> "nr_node_ids" at the time of futex_init() is cached as "nr_futex_queues"
> to compensate for the extra dereference necessary to access the elements
> of futex_queues which ends up in a different cacheline now.
>
> Running 5 runs of perf bench futex showed no measurable impact for any
> variants on a dual socket 3rd generation AMD EPYC system (2 x 64C/128T):
>
> variant locking/futex base + patch %diff
> futex/hash 1220783.2 1333296.2 (9%)
> futex/wake 0.71186 0.72584 (2%)
> futex/wake-parallel 0.00624 0.00664 (6%)
> futex/requeue 0.25088 0.26102 (4%)
> futex/lock-pi 57.6 57.8 (0%)
>
> Note: futex/hash had noticeable run to run variance on test machine.
>
> "nr_node_ids" can rarely be larger than num_possible_nodes() but the
> additional space allows for simpler handling of node index in presence
> of sparse node_possible_map.
>
> Reported-by: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
> Signed-off-by: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
> ---
> Sebastian,
>
> Does this work for your concerns with the large "MAX_NUMNODES" values on
> most distros? It does put the "queues" into a separate cacheline from
> the __futex_data.
>
> The other option is to dynamically allocate the entire __futex_data as:
>
> struct {
> unsigned long hashmask;
> unsigned int hashshift;
> unsigned int nr_queues;
> struct futex_hash_bucket *queues[] __counted_by(nr_queues);
> } *__futex_data __ro_after_init;
>
> with a variable length "queues" at the end if we want to ensure
> everything ends up in the same cacheline but all the __futex_data
> member access would then be pointer dereferencing which might not be
> ideal.
>
> Thoughts?
Both will result in at least one extra deref/cacheline for each futex
op, no?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-27 14:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-28 10:13 K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-24 11:13 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-25 3:36 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-25 7:39 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-25 8:51 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-25 9:22 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-27 8:47 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-27 15:15 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-27 16:04 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-27 14:42 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-02-27 14:59 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-27 16:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-27 17:12 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-27 17:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-02 4:59 ` K Prateek Nayak
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