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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Cc: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Zimuzo Ezeozue <zezeozue@google.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Metin Kaya <Metin.Kaya@arm.com>,
	Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan94@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>,
	kuyo chang <kuyo.chang@mediatek.com>, hupu <hupu.gm@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] sched/proxy: doodles..
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 13:45:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260526114506.GA3493090@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260526111609.433880331@infradead.org>


I managed to screw up the emails and most MTAs refused to accept. Mails
made their to lore though.

On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 01:16:09PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> This goes on top of queue:sched/proxy.
> 
> I was trying to do some cleanups and playing around with that PROXY_WAKING
> removal, and also moving towards using ->is_blocked to replace the core
> se.sched_delayed usage.
> 
> But aside from making a few silly mistakes and taking far too long to figure
> out WTF happened, I've ran into a snag with the scheme to remove PROXY_WAKING.
> 
> This happens in patch #4, where we switch the proxy paths to be guarded by
> ->is_blocked, rather than ->blocked_on. This works fine for schedule() /
> pick_next_task, since that guarantees there are no delayed tasks.
> 
> However ttwu_runnable() has no such luck, and if ->is_blocked is all we have,
> then it turns out that we'll always fully block delayed tasks and send then
> through the long path.
> 
> Now, I did me some ttwu-delayed patches a while ago, and Mike has been poking
> me about them. Those patches pick out the delayed things before we take locks,
> so perhaps we can resolve this that way. I'll have to poke a bit more.
> 
> In the meantime, I figured I'd share the patches I got... I think at least the
> first 3 might live :-)

https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260526111609.433880331@infradead.org/T/#u

      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-05-26 11:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-26 11:16 Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-26 11:16 ` [PATCH 1/6] sched/proxy: Remove superfluous clear_task_blocked_in() Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-26 23:39   ` John Stultz
2026-05-26 23:54     ` John Stultz
2026-05-27  8:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-28 23:20     ` John Stultz
2026-05-29  6:45       ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-05-29  7:14         ` John Stultz
2026-05-29  8:24           ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-05-29  8:47         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-29  8:50           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-29 10:46           ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-05-30  2:56             ` John Stultz
2026-05-29  9:33         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-29  6:48       ` John Stultz
2026-05-29  7:58         ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-05-29 10:06           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-29 10:54             ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-06-04 18:45   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-26 11:16 ` [PATCH 2/6] sched/proxy: Optimize try_to_wake_up() Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-27  1:56   ` John Stultz
2026-06-04 18:45   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-26 11:16 ` [PATCH 3/6] sched: Be more strict about p->is_blocked Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-27  1:56   ` John Stultz
2026-06-04 18:45   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-26 11:16 ` [PATCH 4/6] sched/proxy: Switch proxy to use p->is_blocked Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-26 14:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-26 19:48     ` John Stultz
2026-05-27  2:25   ` John Stultz
2026-05-27  8:29     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-04 18:45       ` [tip: sched/core] sched/proxy: Only return migrate when needed tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-04 18:45   ` [tip: sched/core] sched/proxy: Switch proxy to use p->is_blocked tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-26 11:16 ` [PATCH 5/6] sched/proxy: Remove PROXY_WAKING Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-01 10:54   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-01 20:32     ` John Stultz
2026-06-02  5:22       ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-06-02  6:58         ` John Stultz
2026-06-02 10:02         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-04 18:29           ` John Stultz
2026-06-04 18:41             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-02  3:19     ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-06-04 18:45   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for K Prateek Nayak
2026-05-26 11:16 ` [PATCH 6/6] sched: Simplify ttwu_runnable() Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-04 18:45   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-26 11:45 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]

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