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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Paul Durrant <paul@xen.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	syzbot+208f7f3e5f59c11aeb90@syzkaller.appspotmail.com,
	Carsten Stollmaier <stollmc@amazon.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/20] locking/rt: Use raw_spin_lock_irqsave() in __rwbase_read_unlock()
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2026 11:40:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260601094017.GM3102624@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58d17a623c1c5c9c09bd91baa30510aaf42f899b.camel@infradead.org>

On Sat, May 30, 2026 at 01:47:06PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Sat, 2026-05-30 at 12:26 +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > 
> > Yeah, I think so.
> > 
> > The write side needs kvm->srcu so it would have to be yet another SRCU. 
> > I initially thought that sucks for the code that calls kvm_gpc_check(), 
> > but maybe not because it simply replaces read_lock/read_unlock.
> > 
> > By using a seqcount for the data, SRCU only needs to be synchronized in 
> > gpc_unmap().  So, something like this:
> 
> It isn't just gpc_unmap() which does the invalidation. We also
> invalidate from the MMU notifier in gfn_to_pfn_cache_invalidate_start()
> which would also have to synchronize, wouldn't it?

Ok, so I had a look at what this code actually does, and it appears to
be a guest frame number to page frame number cache, managed by
mmu_notifiers.

IOW, its some software TLB thing (pre HVM Xen support?)

Now, mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start() has a rather explicit
might_sleep() in, and while there is an
mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start_noblock(), that has an error return,
and it is clearly specified that if that thing returns non-zero, PTEs
must not be changed.

With all that, I don't see why we can't block for srcu_synchronize() in
gfn_to_pfn_cache_invalidate_start().

Now, I've never much looked at mmu_notifiers, but for native, TLBI might
require sending IPIs to all CPUs, and as such cannot happen in atomic
sections. I would expect this same to extend to mmu_notifiers. It must
be possible to sleep in them.

What am I missing?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-01  9:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-29 16:50 [PATCH v2 00/20] KVM: x86/xen: Fix Xen/GP/PREEMPT_RT issues with rwlock_t Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:50 ` [PATCH v2 01/20] locking/rt: Use raw_spin_lock_irqsave() in __rwbase_read_unlock() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 19:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-29 19:34     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-29 20:05       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 20:13         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-29 20:38           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-30  0:54             ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-30 10:26               ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-30 12:47                 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-30 14:40                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-01 10:52                     ` David Woodhouse
2026-06-01 13:01                       ` David Woodhouse
2026-06-01 13:40                         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-01 13:53                           ` David Woodhouse
2026-06-01 14:47                             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-01 15:11                               ` David Woodhouse
2026-06-01  9:40                   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-06-01 10:04                     ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-30 13:02                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-01  8:40                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-01 11:11                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-01 11:40                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-01 19:13                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02  7:34                       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-04 23:58             ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-29 16:50 ` [PATCH v2 02/20] KVM: x86/xen: Use read_trylock() for GPC locks in hardirq/atomic paths Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 23:28   ` Hillf Danton
2026-05-29 16:50 ` [PATCH v2 03/20] KVM: x86/xen: Remove unnecessary irqsave from GPC lock usage in xen.c Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:50 ` [PATCH v2 04/20] KVM: x86: Remove unnecessary irqsave from kvm_setup_guest_pvclock() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:50 ` [PATCH v2 05/20] KVM: Remove unnecessary IRQ disabling from GPC lock in pfncache.c Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 06/20] KVM: x86/xen: Use guard() to grab kvm->srcu around gpc critical sections Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 07/20] KVM: x86/xen: Extract delivery of event to vCPU into a separate helper Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 08/20] KVM: x86/xen: Explicitly tag "shared info" page as never being dirty tracked Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 09/20] KVM: x86/xen: Don't dirty track "vCPU info" page Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 10/20] KVM: Move {g,p}fn <=> {g,h}pa conversion helpers to kvm_types.h Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 11/20] KVM: Add CLASS() constructs to automagically handle lock+check of gpc Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 12/20] KVM: x86/xen: Convert kvm_xen_shared_info_init() to gpc's CLASS() APIs Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 13/20] KVM: x86/xen: Don't bother waiting on gpc->lock in SCHEDOP_poll Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 14/20] KVM: x86/xen: Convert wait_pending_event() to gpc's CLASS() APIs Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 15/20] KVM: x86/xen: Convert kvm_xen_set_evtchn_fast() " Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 16/20] KVM: x86/xen: Convert xen_get_guest_pvclock() " Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 17/20] KVM: x86/xen: Drop local "kick_vcpu" from __kvm_xen_set_evtchn_fast() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 18/20] KVM: x86/xen: Convert event injection to gpc's CLASS() APIs Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 19/20] KVM: Add "extended" gpc CLASS() APIs for sometimes-atomic cases Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 20/20] KVM: x86: Use gfn_to_pfn_cache for record_steal_time Sean Christopherson

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