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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Zhuo, Qiuxu" <qiuxu.zhuo@intel.com>,
	"mchehab+huawei@kernel.org" <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>,
	"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	"linmiaohe@huawei.com" <linmiaohe@huawei.com>,
	"xieyuanbin1@huawei.com" <xieyuanbin1@huawei.com>,
	"Lai, Yi1" <yi1.lai@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-edac@vger.kernel.org" <linux-edac@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: mm/memory-failure tracepoint change breaks userspace rasdaemon
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2026 12:54:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260603125436.22a4d5763052f8f4933be91b@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260603130006.7d2c4a62@gandalf.local.home>

On Wed, 3 Jun 2026 13:00:06 -0400 Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Jun 2026 18:26:24 +0200
> "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > Yeah, I was fearing that when I read in [2]:
> > 
> > 	"It has become clear in the past that this promise extends to
> > 	 tracepoints, most notably in 2011 when a tracepoint change broke
> > 	 powertop and had to be reverted."
> 
> Technically the issue is with trace events and not tracepoints. The
> difference is that a trace event is created via the TRACE_EVENT() macro
> which defines what is to be collected from the tracepoint and exposes that
> information to tracefs which applications can easily see.
> 
> A tracepoint is simply the hook in the code that you can attach to. Trace
> events create a callback from that hook to extract the data from the
> tracepoint to fill in the fields.

The problem here appears to be that "ras:memory_failure_event" became
"memory_failure:memory_failure_event".

Perhaps we can add infrastructure to permit aliasing "ras" onto
"memory_failure".  So if we make these namespace alterations we can
easily preserve back-compatibility?


      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-03 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CY8PR11MB7134346A3E4BB28ECA28D6E989132@CY8PR11MB7134.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
2026-06-03 13:44 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-03 16:17   ` Steven Rostedt
2026-06-03 16:19     ` Borislav Petkov
2026-06-03 16:26       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-03 17:00         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-06-03 19:13           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-03 19:30             ` Steven Rostedt
2026-06-03 19:31             ` Steven Rostedt
2026-06-05  8:52               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-05 14:13                 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-06-04  1:46             ` Xie Yuanbin
2026-06-04  6:42               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-04 13:42                 ` Xie Yuanbin
2026-06-04 15:48                   ` Zhuo, Qiuxu
2026-06-04 15:43             ` Zhuo, Qiuxu
2026-06-03 19:54           ` Andrew Morton [this message]

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