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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, vschneid@redhat.com,
	kprateek.nayak@amd.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	qyousef@layalina.io
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6 v2] sched/eevdf: Take into account current's lag when updating slice protection
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2026 11:29:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260616092959.GH42921@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260615162420.420957-3-vincent.guittot@linaro.org>

On Mon, Jun 15, 2026 at 06:24:16PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> Take into account the lag of current task when setting the slice protection
> in order to ensure that the absolute value of lags will remain in the
> range [0 : slice+tick]
> A task that already has a negative lag will see its protection reduced
> whereas a task with positive lag will keep a full slice protection.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
> ---
>  kernel/sched/fair.c | 8 +++++---
>  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index 83bce5a04f3d..b8d5d9bcc014 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -1083,6 +1083,7 @@ struct sched_entity *__pick_first_entity(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq)
>   */
>  static inline void set_protect_slice(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se)
>  {
> +	u64 vruntime = min_vruntime(se->vruntime, avg_vruntime(cfs_rq));
>  	u64 slice = normalized_sysctl_sched_base_slice;
>  	u64 vprot = se->deadline;
>  
> @@ -1090,8 +1091,8 @@ static inline void set_protect_slice(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity
>  		slice = cfs_rq_min_slice(cfs_rq);
>  
>  	slice = min(slice, se->slice);
> -	if (slice != se->slice)
> -		vprot = min_vruntime(vprot, se->vruntime + calc_delta_fair(slice, se));
> +	if (vruntime != se->vruntime || slice != se->slice)
> +		vprot = min_vruntime(vprot, vruntime + calc_delta_fair(slice, se));
>  
>  	se->vprot = vprot;
>  }

As already noted by Prateek, this doesn't seem to make much sense, since
we just got selected by schedule(), we *must* be left of avg_vruntime(),
otherwise we'd not be eligible and all that.

> @@ -1099,8 +1100,9 @@ static inline void set_protect_slice(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity
>  static inline void update_protect_slice(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se)
>  {
>  	u64 slice = cfs_rq_min_slice(cfs_rq);
> +	u64 vruntime = min_vruntime(se->vruntime, avg_vruntime(cfs_rq));
>  
> -	se->vprot = min_vruntime(se->vprot, se->vruntime + calc_delta_fair(slice, se));
> +	se->vprot = min_vruntime(se->vprot, vruntime + calc_delta_fair(slice, se));
>  }
>  
>  static inline bool protect_slice(struct sched_entity *se)

So:

 - set_protect_slice() is called at: set_next_task(.first = true),
   eg, only when the task gets scheduled().

 - set_protect_slice() takes se->deadline as the baseline, and (when
   RUN_TO_PARITY) computes a shorter vprot [ min_slice vs slice ].

 - update_protect_slice() is called upon (failed) wakeup preemption,
   new tasks have been added and as such the goal is to re-compute the
   min_slice and possibly reduce vprot.

Right?


And while update_protect_slice() would ideally use the original
se->vruntime (as per set_next_task(.first = true) to compute any new
(shorter) vprot, per its use of min_vruntime() it can not in fact end up
with a vprot that is longer than the initial.

Now, your change is to use min(se->vruntime, avg_vruntime()) to increase
the chance of actually computing a shorter vprot. Still very much wrong,
but possibly less wrong.

Rather than taking avg_vruntime(), would it make sense to do something
like:

	slice = cfs_rq_min_slice(cfs_rq);
	slice -= se->sum_exec_runtime - se->prev_sum_exec_runtime;

	vprot = se->vruntime;
	if (slice < 0)
		vprot -= calc_delta_fair(-slice, se);
	else
		vprot += calc_delta_fair(slice, se);

	se->vprot = min_vruntime(se->vprot, vprot);

That is, reduce the slice with the time already ran.

Now, this will go sideways in the unlikely case of renice, and possibly
sched_change pattern (it seems we update prev_sum_exec_runtime for
!first), but overall it might be a better approximation, no?


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-16  9:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-15 16:24 [PATCH 0/6 v2] sched/eevdf: Improve scheduling latency of short slice task Vincent Guittot
2026-06-15 16:24 ` [PATCH 1/6 v2] sched/fair: Set next buddy for preempt short Vincent Guittot
2026-06-16  8:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-16 13:52     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-15 16:24 ` [PATCH 2/6 v2] sched/eevdf: Take into account current's lag when updating slice protection Vincent Guittot
2026-06-16  3:52   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-06-16 12:11     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-16  9:29   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-06-16 12:49     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-15 16:24 ` [PATCH 3/6 v2] sched/eevdf: Update slice protection even when resched is already set Vincent Guittot
2026-06-16  9:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-16 13:57     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-15 16:24 ` [PATCH 4/6 v2] sched/eevdf: Cancel slice protection if short slice task is eligible Vincent Guittot
2026-06-16  5:34   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-06-16 12:51     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-15 16:24 ` [PATCH 5/6 v2] sched/eevdf: Always update slice protection Vincent Guittot
2026-06-15 16:24 ` [PATCH 6/6 v2] sched/eevdf: Speedup short slice task scheduling Vincent Guittot
2026-06-16 10:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-16 15:18     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-17 16:01       ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-16  7:43 ` [PATCH 0/6 v2] sched/eevdf: Improve scheduling latency of short slice task K Prateek Nayak
2026-06-16 13:58   ` Vincent Guittot

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