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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: remove the requirement for LLM attribution From: Christian Brauner To: Christian Brauner Cc: Laurent Pinchart , "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" , Lorenzo Stoakes , Boris Burkov , Jeff Layton , Greg KH , Linus Torvalds , Jonathan Corbet , Justin Stitt , Carlos Maiolino , Jakub Kicinski , Jori Koolstra , Krzysztof Kozlowski , Brian Foster , Christoph Hellwig , David Disseldorp , Mark Brown , Jani Nikula , Jens Axboe , Vlastimil Babka , workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20260707-siebzehn-geleast-gastmahl-4889a8f6b474@brauner> References: <20260702211740.GA639365@zen.localdomain> <3f447113-4407-471f-878f-e6d6edafee71@kernel.org> <20260703163251.GB3734786@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> <0ba6bf66-e48f-40df-a953-503d317b3dbe@kernel.org> <20260707124031.GC211515@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> <20260707141803.GA254690@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> <20260707-siebzehn-geleast-gastmahl-4889a8f6b474@brauner> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2026 20:55:13 +0200 Message-Id: <20260707-impfschutz-lerngruppen-klubhaus-7aabcc82f3b4@brauner> X-Mailer: b4 0.16-dev-4217c X-Developer-Signature: v=1; a=openpgp-sha256; l=3496; i=brauner@kernel.org; h=from:subject:message-id; bh=4ZMiZddo2lXGIwRJHVnBRzW0xsPPw10Zko2u9+cu0q0=; b=owGbwMvMwCU28Zj0gdSKO4sYT6slMWT5ek9eN+Px4o9MNbpr5J9fZXrhsSzyT1G55lqVevkOP yWF3qzHHaUsDGJcDLJiiiwO7Sbhcst5KjYbZWrAzGFlAhnCwMUpABORVGP4w7HpsuieZZPzJsWc jrL6/VBWdLHMYs7Jrmu3rHtelfXWfR0jQ4/N2g5egSud8wMW7YvcGFA7MehM31bh1K5qNx5Rdc2 7TAA= X-Developer-Key: i=brauner@kernel.org; a=openpgp; fpr=4880B8C9BD0E5106FC070F4F7B3C391EFEA93624 On 2026-07-07 20:53 +0200, Christian Brauner wrote: > On 2026-07-07 17:18 +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 07, 2026 at 03:28:49PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote: > > > On 7/7/26 14:40, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jul 07, 2026 at 11:49:31AM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote: > > > >> On 7/7/26 11:20, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> I think the silence suggests nobody :) > > > >>> > > > >>> What we could do is send a patch to simply add a section on adding a comment > > > >>> explaining _what_ used an LLM and strongly suggesting it would be helpful to do > > > >>> so. > > > >>> > > > >>> That should hopefully be uncontroversial, then later (or alongside that?) we > > > >>> could submit an RFC for making the language move to 'you MUST do this', as that > > > >>> will probably be the more controversial bit. > > > >> > > > >> Maybe we should just spell out about which scenario we care about where we really > > > >> expect the disclosure. > > > >> > > > >> Sure, it might be more controversial and we could have that in a separate patch. > > > >> > > > >> I was thinking of the following end result: > > > >> > > > >> diff --git a/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst b/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst > > > >> index 899f4459c52d2..4c2ab4dfc6da7 100644 > > > >> --- a/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst > > > >> +++ b/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst > > > >> @@ -40,20 +40,37 @@ Attribution > > > >> =========== > > > >> > > > >> When AI tools contribute to kernel development, proper attribution > > > >> -helps track the evolving role of AI in the development process. > > > >> -Contributions should include an Assisted-by tag in the following format:: > > > >> +helps track the evolving role of AI in the development process. Further, > > > >> +for reviewers and maintainers it is also crucially important to know how > > > >> +AI tools were used. > > > >> > > > >> - Assisted-by: AGENT_NAME:MODEL_VERSION [TOOL1] [TOOL2] > > > >> +Contributions that used AI to generate significant portions of code, > > > >> +comments, or patch descriptions must include an Assisted-by tag in the > > > >> +following format:: > > > >> > > > >> -Where (preferred): > > > >> + Assisted-by: LLM # brief description of usage > > > >> + > > > >> +Or alternatively:: > > > >> + > > > >> + Assisted-by: AGENT_NAME:MODEL_VERSION # brief description of usage > > > > > > > > I would like to drop this one. As I understand, several people objected > > > > to including the product name in the git history as it is just free > > > > adverising, and nobody objected to dropping it. > > > > > > Yeah. I mean, we could go the following direction (dropping the models and > > > encouraging also a description of usage for other tools), but not sure how > > > much pushback we will get: > > > > I haven't heard anyone involved in this mail thread objecting to the > > concepts you translated into sentences below, so I think it's worth a > > try. Of course there may be objections from people who are not aware of > > this very conversation. > > Then someone can basically just merge the original patch I sent since > everyone seems to agree on that front. And then the extension to include > how the LLM was used can be discussed in a separate patch. https://patch.msgid.link/20260701-work-coding-assistants-v1-1-a20a94d1d606@kernel.org fwiw