From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
Jori Koolstra <jkoolstra@xs4all.nl>,
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Aleksa Sarai <aleksa@amutable.com>, NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>,
Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 09/14] vfs: add O_CREAT|O_DIRECTORY to open*(2)
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2026 15:30:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260707-latschen-positionieren-akkord-314a884b8868@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <akznq3Tzkg3XbPAc@pedro-suse>
> > It's been years since O_DIRECTORY | O_CREAT has been made consistent
> > which means all LTS kernels have consistent behavior. We often make flag
>
> This is not actually (as far as I can tell) correct. Your commit dates back
> to 6.4-rc1. Since then we've had 6.6, 6.12 and 6.18. However, we have 5.10,
> 5.15 and 6.1 which all should still have the old behavior
> (per https://kernel.dance/#43b450632676, that was only backported to 6.1).
We can backport the old fix fwiw because the behavior as is is just a bug.
> > I appreciate the concern but even if this were to fall flat then
> > worst-case we'd add a new flag and we'd still make that work. But I see
> > no reason to not try the semantically obvious thing and make
> > O_DIRECTORY | O_CREAT work.
>
> For what it's worth, if the fugly test function moved you, I do see an easy way
> forward here with openat2(). Namely, openat2(O_CREAT | O_DIRECTORY) with
> mode S_IFDIR | 0777 could Just Work (and will unambiguously be rejected
> in old kernels with EINVAL). Of course it doesn't work with open() :=)
>
> Hmm, if you could use openat2() as a way to simply feature-test for this,
> then suddenly open(O_CREAT | O_DIRECTORY) can also Just Work...
Feature testing has always been a pain that we forced onto userspace. I
think we should continue with that proud tradition.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-07 13:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-04 16:41 [PATCH v3 00/14] " Jori Koolstra
2026-07-04 16:41 ` [PATCH v3 01/14] fs/namei.c: use trailing_slashes() Jori Koolstra
2026-07-06 3:56 ` NeilBrown
2026-07-06 7:29 ` David Laight
2026-07-06 20:55 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-07 7:42 ` David Laight
2026-07-07 10:51 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-04 16:41 ` [PATCH v3 02/14] vfs: move create error && negative dentry case in lookup_open() up Jori Koolstra
2026-07-04 16:41 ` [PATCH v3 03/14] vfs: prepare vfs_creat|mkdir_no_perm for reuse in lookup_open() Jori Koolstra
2026-07-07 10:51 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-04 16:41 ` [PATCH v3 04/14] vfs: call audit_inode_child() in lookup_open() on failure too Jori Koolstra
2026-07-06 5:33 ` NeilBrown
2026-07-06 21:20 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-06 23:02 ` NeilBrown
2026-07-07 10:51 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-04 16:41 ` [PATCH v3 05/14] fs/namei.c: update docstring of atomic_open() Jori Koolstra
2026-07-06 5:36 ` NeilBrown
2026-07-07 10:51 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-04 16:41 ` [PATCH v3 06/14] vfs: lookup_open(): move setting FMODE_CREATED down Jori Koolstra
2026-07-04 16:41 ` [PATCH v3 07/14] vfs: move ->create check in lookup_open() to before try_break_deleg() Jori Koolstra
2026-07-06 5:37 ` NeilBrown
2026-07-07 10:51 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-04 16:41 ` [PATCH v3 08/14] vfs: lookup_open(): use vfs_create_no_perm() Jori Koolstra
2026-07-06 5:38 ` NeilBrown
2026-07-07 10:51 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-04 16:41 ` [PATCH v3 09/14] vfs: add O_CREAT|O_DIRECTORY to open*(2) Jori Koolstra
2026-07-06 5:46 ` NeilBrown
2026-07-07 8:35 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-07-07 10:04 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-07 13:04 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-07-07 13:30 ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2026-07-13 9:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-13 21:35 ` NeilBrown
2026-07-14 5:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-14 10:50 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-14 10:46 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-07 10:06 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-07 13:55 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-07-07 14:18 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-08 15:39 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-07-09 6:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-09 10:51 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-09 14:21 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-09 14:34 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-13 9:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-07 10:51 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-10 18:55 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-12 12:39 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-04 16:41 ` [PATCH v3 10/14] vfs: move O_IS_MKDIR check from lookup_open() into individual filesystems Jori Koolstra
2026-07-06 5:50 ` NeilBrown
2026-07-07 10:51 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-04 16:41 ` [PATCH v3 11/14] vfs: refuse O_CREAT for directories through a dangling symlink Jori Koolstra
2026-07-06 5:51 ` NeilBrown
2026-07-04 16:41 ` [PATCH v3 12/14] vfs: short-circuit MAY_WRITE access for O_DIRECTORY opens Jori Koolstra
2026-07-06 5:51 ` NeilBrown
2026-07-04 16:41 ` [PATCH v3 13/14] selftest: fix headers in fclog.c Jori Koolstra
2026-07-06 5:57 ` NeilBrown
2026-07-06 21:07 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-07 10:51 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-04 16:41 ` [PATCH v3 14/14] selftest: add tests for open*(O_CREAT|O_DIRECTORY) Jori Koolstra
2026-07-07 10:51 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-07 10:51 ` [PATCH v3 00/14] vfs: add O_CREAT|O_DIRECTORY to open*(2) Christian Brauner
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