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From: Xin Zhao <jackzxcui1989@163.com>
To: kprateek.nayak@amd.com
Cc: bsegall@google.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	jackzxcui1989@163.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mgorman@suse.de, mingo@redhat.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, vschneid@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH RESEND 01/10] sched/fair: Do not set_rd_overloaded() if rd->online != env->cpus
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2026 09:06:23 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260911010623.2425196-1-jackzxcui1989@163.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7735bbdb-2465-4ed3-9486-be9b82f3f42a@amd.com>

On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 14:00:43 +0530 K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com> wrote:

> Only two cases manipulate env.cpus:
> 
> 1. LBF_DST_PINNED: The CPU doing the load balancing clears itself from
>    env.cpus since pinned tasks cannot be moved to it and goes to
>    "more_balance" but "more_balance" does not recompute stats and never
>    reaches update_sd_lb_stats().
> 
> 2. LBF_ALL_PINNED: CPU with no movable task is cleared from env.cpus.
>    How will rd->overload being set for a CPU that cannot be helped make
>    newidle balance any more efficient?

The effective range of LBF_ALL_PINNED is specific to a particular src CPU
and a particular dst CPU, whereas rd->overload is indeed a global marker
that affects all CPUs with idle states. Regardless of whether case 1 has
been processed, it seems unreasonable to me that rd->overload could be
incorrectly cleared due to case 2, because the scopes of the LBF_ALL_PINNED
and ->overload flags are not equivalent.


>  Since LBF_ALL_PINNED is known with busiest's rq_lock held, maybe you
>  can set a rq->flag and later consume it in add_nr_running() to
>  do set_rd_overloaded() selectively.

If the global rd->overload is incorrectly cleared due to LBF_ALL_PINNED
from src (CPUA) to dst (CPUB), it is possible that CPUB may experience
no changes in nr_running for a certain period of time. Therefore, I think
modifying it in add_nr_running may not be appropriate. I'm not sure if my
understanding is correct.


--
Xin Zhao


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-09-11  1:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-10  4:29 [RFC PATCH RESEND 00/10] sched/fair: A series of load balance patches to improve real-time performance of CFS tasks Xin Zhao
2026-09-10  4:29 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 01/10] sched/fair: Do not set_rd_overloaded() if rd->online != env->cpus Xin Zhao
2026-09-10  8:30   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-09-10 13:45     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-11  1:06     ` Xin Zhao [this message]
2026-09-11  6:21       ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-09-12  1:46         ` Xin Zhao
2026-09-12  1:53         ` Xin Zhao
2026-09-10  4:29 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 02/10] scbed/fair: Remove duplicate check for busiest_cpu in active_load_balance_cpu_stop() Xin Zhao
2026-09-10 11:41   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-09-11  0:22     ` Xin Zhao
2026-09-11  9:20       ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-09-10  4:29 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 03/10] sched/fair: Clear active_balance at the end of active_load_balance_cpu_stop() Xin Zhao
2026-09-10  8:09   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-09-10 14:15     ` Xin Zhao
2026-09-10  4:29 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 04/10] sched/fair: Add LB_PROMOTE feature to enhance real-time performance of fair tasks Xin Zhao
2026-09-11 12:32   ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-12  4:28     ` Xin Zhao
2026-09-10  4:29 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 05/10] sched/fair: Introduce select_task_rq_fair_thin() to select rq when LB_PROMOTE Xin Zhao
2026-09-10  8:19   ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-10 14:39     ` Xin Zhao
2026-09-10 15:31       ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-10 15:56         ` Xin Zhao
2026-09-11 12:27           ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-12  4:08             ` Xin Zhao
2026-09-15 11:56               ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-15 21:43                 ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-09-10 12:00   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-09-10 14:56     ` Xin Zhao
2026-09-15 18:19       ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-09-10  4:29 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 06/10] sched/fair: Modify active_load_balance_cpu_stop() to accommodate more scenarios Xin Zhao
2026-09-10  4:29 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 07/10] sched/fair: Trigger active balance if a CFS task is preempted when LB_PROMOTE Xin Zhao
2026-09-10  4:29 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 08/10] sched/fair: Do not check avg_idle to prematurely exit newly idle " Xin Zhao
2026-09-10  4:29 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 09/10] sched/fair: Not goto more_balance if newly idle and has pending task when LBF_NEED_BREAK Xin Zhao
2026-09-10  4:29 ` [RFC PATCH RESEND 10/10] sched/fair: Strive to find a task to migrate if newly idle when LB_PROMOTE Xin Zhao

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