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From: Salvatore Dipietro <dipiets@amazon.it>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] mm/page_alloc: avoid direct compaction for costly __GFP_NORETRY allocations
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2026 16:00:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260915160042.1265958-1-dipiets@amazon.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260911093209.d9181d5950778897935f6bcb@linux-foundation.org>


On Fri, 11 Sep 2026 09:32:00 -0700 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> does any of this look real?

The mechanism seems real, but it only shows up with vm.defrag_mode=1,
which is off by default.

With defrag_mode=1, a costly __GFP_NORETRY allocation that used to fail
cleanly can now succeed by fragmenting another migratetype's pageblock,
which seems like the wrong trade for a caller whose premise is a cheap
lower-order fallback. Johannes, do we want to keep it strict?
If so, we could add a condition like below. It is equally
applicable to v4 and v5. Happy to send it separately or in v6.

	/*
	 * Reclaim/compaction cannot run, so defrag_mode's strategy
	 * of enforcing ALLOC_NOFRAGMENT cannot be fulfilled. Allow
	 * fallbacks rather than failing the allocation outright.
	 * Not for costly __GFP_NORETRY: those have a cheap lower
	 * order fallback, so failing beats fragmenting.
	 */
	if (defrag_mode && (alloc_flags & ALLOC_NOFRAGMENT) &&
	    !(costly_order && (gfp_mask & __GFP_NORETRY)) &&
	    (gfp_mask & __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM)) {
		alloc_flags &= ~ALLOC_NOFRAGMENT;
		goto retry;
	}


Salvatore





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  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-15 16:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-11 14:21 Salvatore Dipietro
2026-09-11 15:37 ` Zi Yan
2026-09-11 16:32 ` Andrew Morton
2026-09-15 16:00   ` Salvatore Dipietro [this message]
2026-09-15 16:17     ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-11 20:44 ` Johannes Weiner

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