From: Meagan Lloyd <meaganlloyd@linux.microsoft.com>
To: Sam Agazaryan <samagazaryan@google.com>
Cc: Meagan Lloyd <meaganlloyd@linux.microsoft.com>,
linux-i3c@lists.infradead.org,
Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
Frank Li <Frank.Li@nxp.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Vitor Soares <vitor.soares@toradex.com>,
Oleksandr Shulzhenko <oleksandr.shulzhenko.viktorovych@intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tgopinath@linux.microsoft.com,
boris.brezillon@collabora.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] i3c: add i3cdev module to expose i3c dev in /dev
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2026 15:27:38 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260917-b3831e748e890287325aae49@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHreonH0b=spgb2LuUbVvWHarJWf3MOyL8qS5k_1X6gb_mjVkg@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Sep 11, 2026 at 05:12:40PM -0700, Sam Agazaryan wrote:
> Hey Meagan,
>
> Thanks for sharing your patch series.
>
> The reason we have the bus notifier system here is
> 1. Dynamic module loading is handled automatically: if i3cdev is built-in and
> a specialized driver module loads later, the bus notifier receives
> BUS_NOTIFY_BIND_DRIVER and immediately calls i3cdev_detach().
I think the bus notifier approach has the potential to hit some race
conditions with other drivers.
For example, drivers/base/dd.c, really_probe is the only spot in the
source code that BUS_NOTIFY_BIND_DRIVER event occurs:
really_probe
driver_sysfs_add <- where BUS_NOTIFY_BIND_DRIVER occurs
call_driver_probe
If a specialized driver's probe sets dev->driver_data, and i3cdev_detach
gets to run afterwards, wouldn't it overwrite driver_data with
NULL and clobber the driver_data?
Similarly, a driver setting dev->driver_data could cause you to lose
your i3cdev_data pointer - which you need for teardown in i3cdev_detach.
The use of the dev->driver_data field when i3cdev isn't a registered
device driver was one of the feedback points flagged in v3 (2020).
> 2. No cross-subsystem changes needed. The bus notifier avoids touching other
> subsystems entirely.
That's true and certainly a plus!
> 3. Boot-time recovery flows: For OCP Secure Firmware Recovery
> devices come up unbound and need /dev/bus/i3c/<device> available
> immediately without requiring udev rules or sysfs writes first.
>
Why can't you use udev rules?
You can use them to automatically set driver_override & bind to i3cdev.
Once the rules are in-place, the setup of character device files in
/dev/bus/i3c/<device> will be immediate and automatic on-boot and for any
devices that join later.
You can also do it for all I3C devices if that's what you want.
> It looks like we're both going in the same direction for UAPI integration too.
>
> If you're open to collaborating, I think we can combine and converge on a single
> i3cdev driver - adopting all necessary fixes and ensuring the UAPI and features
> cover both of our use cases so we have one unified series (and any
> other use cases
> or desires we may want out of an i3cdev driver).
Yeah, I am up for that! :)
> I'd like to know what everyone thinks about taking that approach also
> if there are any
> other use cases we may be missing here, regardless of which patch set we choose.
>
> I guess just to get things moving, if we go one way and choose to go
> forward with
> the bus notifier approach, Meagan would you be okay with me incorporating your
> Patch 2/3 for actual_len for the i3c controller drivers? Of course
> with your authorship.
Sure. I should have mentioned is that I only have a Designware I3C controller,
so hopefully we can source help to test actual_len for other controller drivers.
Thanks,
Meagan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-17 22:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-06 20:27 [PATCH v4 0/3] i3c: Introduce i3c device userspace interface Sam Agazaryan
2026-09-06 20:27 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] i3c: master: export i3c_masterdev_type Sam Agazaryan
2026-09-06 20:27 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] i3c: master: add i3c_for_each_dev helper Sam Agazaryan
2026-09-06 20:27 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] i3c: add i3cdev module to expose i3c dev in /dev Sam Agazaryan
2026-09-07 14:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-09-09 6:13 ` Sam Agazaryan
2026-09-09 21:51 ` Frank Li
2026-09-11 3:44 ` Sam Agazaryan
2026-09-11 15:10 ` Frank Li
2026-09-11 23:57 ` Sam Agazaryan
2026-09-11 19:03 ` Adrian Hunter
2026-09-14 23:46 ` Sam Agazaryan
2026-09-15 9:49 ` Adrian Hunter
2026-09-15 21:26 ` Sam Agazaryan
2026-09-11 22:05 ` Meagan Lloyd
2026-09-12 0:12 ` Sam Agazaryan
2026-09-17 22:27 ` Meagan Lloyd [this message]
2026-09-18 18:59 ` Meagan Lloyd
2026-09-18 20:21 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-09-18 22:47 ` Sam Agazaryan
2026-09-08 11:48 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] i3c: Introduce i3c device userspace interface Wolfram Sang
2026-09-12 11:12 ` Wolfram Sang
2026-09-14 20:58 ` Sam Agazaryan
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