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From: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
To: Julian Braha <julianbraha@gmail.com>
Cc: "Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"Nicolas Schier" <nsc@kernel.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Shuah Khan" <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Randy Dunlap" <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	"Masahiro Yamada" <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Nicolas Pitre" <nico@fluxnic.net>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk@kernel.org>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	"Andrew Jones" <andrew.jones@linux.dev>,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	"Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Vegard Nossum" <vegard.nossum@oracle.com>,
	"Nauman Sabir" <officialnaumansabir@gmail.com>,
	"Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Weißschuh" <thomas.weissschuh@linutronix.de>,
	"Matthew Maurer" <mmaurer@google.com>,
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	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Borislav Petkov (AMD)" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
	conor.dooley@microchip.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] kconfig: Add "def_string", "def_int" and "def_hex"
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2026 20:40:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202609191431.C3BCBCD@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cdebaad4-00c2-4b80-b688-0f5a723d6009@gmail.com>

On Sat, Sep 19, 2026 at 04:34:54PM +0100, Julian Braha wrote:
> On 9/19/26 01:59, Kees Cook wrote:
> [...]
> the X condition here only applies to the value of y, but not to the type
> declaration of bool. Besides hurting readability, I can imagine a user
> making a mistake by attempting something like this:
> 
>   def_bool 'y' if X
>   def_tristate 'y' if !X
> 
> thinking that they're making the type conditional. Of course, the
> interpreter warns if this is attempted, so you won't actually find any
> of these in the tree.

Yeah, _this_ case is warned on, so no real issue there.

> The second problem, is that since the order of defaults matters and
> conditions can shadow each other, def_<type> makes it harder for users
> to get defaults right. In the past, I've seen several config options
> with bugged defaults due to 'default' + 'def_<type>' [2][3][4].

This is the one I, too, got worried about. From your example:

 config GUEST_STATE_BUFFER_TEST
-	def_tristate n
+	def_tristate KUNIT_ALL_TESTS
 	prompt "Enable Guest State Buffer unit tests"
 	depends on KUNIT
 	depends on KVM_BOOK3S_HV_POSSIBLE
-	default KUNIT_ALL_TESTS
 	help

Is there a way to detect this state? (I assume as a follow-up; it's a
general problem.)

> > Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
> 
> Tested-by: Julian Braha <julianbraha@gmail.com>
> Reviewed-by: Julian Braha <julianbraha@gmail.com>

Thanks!

-- 
Kees Cook

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-20  3:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-19  0:59 [PATCH 0/3] kconfig: Introduce cc-option-str Kees Cook
2026-09-19  0:59 ` [PATCH 1/3] kconfig: Add "def_string", "def_int" and "def_hex" Kees Cook
2026-09-19 15:34   ` Julian Braha
2026-09-20  3:40     ` Kees Cook [this message]
2026-09-19  0:59 ` [PATCH 2/3] kconfig: Replace "cc-option-bit" with "cc-option-str" Kees Cook
2026-09-19  0:59 ` [PATCH 3/3] kconfig: Add "ld-option-str" Kees Cook
2026-09-19  1:25 ` [PATCH 0/3] kconfig: Introduce cc-option-str Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-19 13:31   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)

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