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From: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
To: Harry Yoo <harry@kernel.org>
Cc: "Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Hao Li" <hao.li@linux.dev>, "Christoph Lameter" <cl@gentwo.org>,
	"David Rientjes" <rientjes@google.com>,
	"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, "Pedro Falcato" <pfalcato@suse.de>,
	"Kuniyuki Iwashima" <kuniyu@google.com>,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
	"Jason Xing" <kerneljasonxing@gmail.com>,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>,
	"Jiayuan Chen" <jiayuan.chen@linux.dev>,
	"Willem de Bruijn" <willemb@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/7] mm/slab: Give bucket caches the alignment of the caches they mirror
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2026 16:25:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202609211620.342AAA61@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <arEdcaJz4i5HP26a@thinkstation>

On Mon, Sep 21, 2026 at 02:17:21PM +0100, Harry Yoo wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2026 at 12:58:13AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > A bucket set is created with kmem_cache_create_usercopy(..., align = 0),
> > so calculate_alignment() falls back to arch_slab_minalign(), typically 8
> > bytes. The general kmalloc caches it stands in for are created through
> > create_boot_cache(), which starts from ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN and raises
> > it to the largest power-of-two divisor of the size:
> > 
> > 	if (flags & SLAB_KMALLOC)
> > 		align = max(align, 1U << (ffs(size) - 1));
> > 
> > This is only a problem when slab metadata is enabled with
> > CONFIG_KASAN=y, CONFIG_SLUB_DEBUG_ON=y, or "slab_debug=...", because
> > metadata changes the stride size off a power of two, for example:
> >
> > 	size 128:  bucket align=8 size=224  | kmalloc align=128  size=384
> > 	size 512:  bucket align=8 size=608  | kmalloc align=512  size=1536
> > 	size 2048: bucket align=8 size=2144 | kmalloc align=2048 size=6144
> 
> Hmm... I think what adds confusion here is that in new_kmalloc_cache()
> we adjust the size based on alignment, but in create_boot_cache() we
> don't do that. Perhaps let's make it consistent and move it to
> new_kmalloc_cache()?

Yeah, I really couldn't figure out what was "correct" here.

> > So bucket allocations will fail the IS_ALIGNED(p, ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN)
> > check, potentially creating problems for non-coherent DMA situation.
> 
> I was wondering "Why should they respect kmalloc alignment..." but yeah,
> It makes sense if the users were using kmalloc and depended on its
> alignment.

Right, it was a "visible" change between standard kmalloc and bucketed
kmalloc, so I figured the right action was to be (bug?) identical.

> Well, but that's already done in new_kmalloc_cache() and
> kmem_buckets_create() should already honor ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN? 
> 
> The largest-power-of-two-divisor-alignment guarantee was introduced by
> commit ad59baa31695 ("slab, rust: extend kmalloc() alignment guarantees
> to remove Rust padding")
> 
> ...which makes me wonder what you're trying to fix here?

What Sashiko noticed was that alignment might not match under certain
configs, and then I verified it at runtime, and figured I'd best fix it
just on the basis that it was a difference from what a user might expect,
and it might be especially important for skb data.

> >  			if (WARN_ON(!cache_name))
> >  				goto fail;
> >  			(*b)[aligned_idx] = kmem_cache_create_usercopy(cache_name, size,
> > -					0, flags, cache_useroffset,
> > +					kmalloc_caches[KMALLOC_NORMAL][idx]->align,
> > +					flags, cache_useroffset,
> >  					cache_usersize, ctor);
> >  			kfree(cache_name);
> >  			if (WARN_ON(!(*b)[aligned_idx]))

It looks "obviously correct", but I probably failed to correctly
describe it. I'm happy to do whatever here.

-- 
Kees Cook

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-21 23:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-21  7:58 [PATCH v4 0/7] net: skb: isolate skb data area allocations into a separate bucket Kees Cook
2026-09-21  7:58 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] mm/slab: Mark the kmem_buckets_create() context as a Context: section Kees Cook
2026-09-21 12:03   ` Harry Yoo
2026-09-21  7:58 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] mm/slab: Give bucket caches the alignment of the caches they mirror Kees Cook
2026-09-21 13:17   ` Harry Yoo
2026-09-21 23:25     ` Kees Cook [this message]
2026-09-21  7:58 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] mm/slab: Add kmem_buckets_destroy() Kees Cook
2026-09-21  7:58 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] mm/slab: Add tests for the existing kmem_buckets behaviour Kees Cook
2026-09-21  7:58 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] mm/slab: Provide kmalloc type fallback for bucket allocations Kees Cook
2026-09-21  7:58 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] mm/slab: Let a bucket set handle __GFP_ACCOUNT Kees Cook
2026-09-21 13:25   ` Harry Yoo
2026-09-21 23:26     ` Kees Cook
2026-09-21  7:58 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] net: skb: isolate skb data area allocations into a separate bucket Kees Cook

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