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From: Kayra Cizmeci <kayracizmeci@gmail.com>
To: peterz@infradead.org
Cc: bsegall@google.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	juri.lelli@redhat.com, kprateek.nayak@amd.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mgorman@suse.de, mingo@redhat.com,
	qyousef@layalina.io, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, vschneid@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/8] sched/eevdf: Reset lag when waking up on idle cpu
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2026 17:32:29 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260922143230.5383-1-kayracizmeci@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260922101304.GQ776954@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Hello Peter,

> Right. As I mentioned during OSPM, one of the crazy ideas I had was to
> do something like the below. All of the lag stuff only makes sense while
> there is contention.

> Now, I've not actually tried this -- and at the very least the migation
> case is broken. But it should very much capture the rq->curr == rq->idle
> case and then some.


> diff --git a/include/linux/sched.h b/include/linux/sched.h
> index dac15ec36d1e..70fe8fadafac 100644
> --- a/include/linux/sched.h
> +++ b/include/linux/sched.h
> @@ -592,6 +592,7 @@ struct sched_entity {
>  	u64				vruntime;
>  	/* Approximated virtual lag: */
>  	s64				vlag;
> +	u32				vlag_seq;
>  	/* 'Protected' deadline, to give out minimum quantums: */
>  	u64				vprot;
>  	u64				slice;
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index 2ad46fb2eafe..3e3dde5f2117 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -898,6 +898,7 @@ bool update_entity_lag(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se)
>  			vlag = min(vlag, 0);
>  	}
>  	se->vlag = vlag;
> +	se->vlag_seq = cfs_rq->idle_seq;
>  
>  	return avruntime - vlag != se->vruntime;
>  }
> @@ -6397,6 +6398,9 @@ place_entity(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se, int flags)
>  	if (flags & ENQUEUE_QUEUED)
>  		nr_queued -= 1;
>  
> +	if (se->vlag_seq != cfs_rq->idle_seq)
> +		se->vlag = 0;
> +
>  	/*
>  	 * Due to how V is constructed as the weighted average of entities,
>  	 * adding tasks with positive lag, or removing tasks with negative lag
> @@ -8374,6 +8378,9 @@ static bool __dequeue_task(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int flags)
>  
>  	dequeue_hierarchy(p, flags);
>  
> +	if (!cfs_rq->h_nr_queued)
> +		cfs_rq->idle_seq++;
> +
>  	if (sched_feat(PLACE_REL_DEADLINE) && !task_sleep) {
>  		se->deadline -= se->vruntime;
>  		se->rel_deadline = 1;
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/sched.h b/kernel/sched/sched.h
> index 6c3ad70e58b8..0f0edb77e235 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/sched.h
> +++ b/kernel/sched/sched.h
> @@ -689,6 +689,7 @@ struct cfs_rq {
>  	u64			sum_weight;
>  	u64			zero_vruntime;
>  	unsigned int		sum_shift;
> +	u32			idle_seq;
>  
>  #ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_CORE
>  	unsigned int		forceidle_seq;

I think we could both of these approaches.
On migration, we'll check (rq->curr == rq->idle),
On normal yours.

Or, if possible on migration before se's rq changes,
we could do this idle_seq on there too.
Tho, not really tested or proven. And IDK 
if there's a place that is before se's rq changes.

Thanks,
Kayra :)





  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-09-22 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-21 15:22 [PATCH 0/8] Improving latency of short slice tasks Vincent Guittot
2026-09-21 15:22 ` [PATCH 1/8] sched/eevdf: Ensure that vprot will never go above a min slice Vincent Guittot
2026-09-21 15:22 ` [PATCH 2/8] sched/eevdf: Align update_protect_slice to set_protect_slice Vincent Guittot
2026-09-21 15:22 ` [PATCH 3/8] sched/eevdf: Handle more short slice waking cases Vincent Guittot
2026-09-21 15:22 ` [PATCH 4/8] sched/eevdf: Decay positive lag of sleeping entities Vincent Guittot
2026-09-22 10:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-22 10:40     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-22 12:56     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-22 13:28       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-22 14:21         ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-21 15:22 ` [PATCH 5/8] sched/eevdf: Reset lag when waking up on idle cpu Vincent Guittot
2026-09-21 16:06   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-09-22  5:56     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-22 10:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-22 14:20     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-22 14:32     ` Kayra Cizmeci [this message]
2026-09-21 15:22 ` [PATCH 6/8] sched/eevdf: Add per cpu cached min_slice Vincent Guittot
2026-09-22 10:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-22 14:19     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-21 15:22 ` [PATCH 7/8] sched/eevdf: Compare min slice during wake_affine Vincent Guittot
2026-09-21 15:22 ` [PATCH 8/8] sched/eevdf: Add min slice check when selecting CPU Vincent Guittot
2026-09-22 10:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-22 12:31     ` Vincent Guittot

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