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From: Jonathan Cameron <jonathan.cameron@oss.qualcomm.com>
To: Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, maz@kernel.org,
	will@kernel.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
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	fj0570is@fujitsu.com, WeiLin.Chang@arm.com,
	lpieralisi@kernel.org, enju.kohei@fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v19 01/20] KVM: arm64: protected VM: Handle user writes to CNTVCT_EL0/CNTPCT_EL0
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2026 09:51:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260923095126.0000241d@oss.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa2f4766-0795-464a-80ca-2f3fd1c5140b@arm.com>

On Tue, 22 Sep 2026 23:04:42 +0100
Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com> wrote:

> On 22/09/2026 20:25, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 Sep 2026 22:28:26 +0100
> > Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Suzuki,
> >   
> >> Protected VMs doesn't allow setting offsets for virtual and phyiscal  
> > 
> > physical
> >   
> >> counters, as the offset is always fixed to 0. The VM ioclt is filtered  
> > 
> > ioctl
> >   
> >> out based on the cap. However we don't prevent the userspace from trying
> >> to write to the CNTVCT/CNTPCT registers. This would lead to KVM triggering
> >> a WARN() in timer_set_offset() as the vm_offset pointer is set to NULL.
> >>
> >> Fix this by always "fixing" the timer offsets to 0 and marking that the
> >> timer offset is set in the kvm->arch.flags at KVM init time for protected
> >> VMs. A userspace writing to the CNT*CT_EL0 would observe success, without
> >> any real effect. This was chosen over preventing the writes to these
> >> registers and returning -EPERM.  
> > 
> > Why?  I don't mind the decision but telling us what was chosen is something
> > we can see in the code - patch description should give us the stuff we
> > can't see.
> > 
> > One comment on the comment below.  
> >>
> >> Reported by Sashiko
> >>
> >> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260908164641.416911F00A3A@smtp.kernel.org
> >> Fixes: f7d05ee84a6a ("KVM: arm64: Prevent host from managing timer offsets for protected VMs")
> >> Suggested-by: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
> >> Signed-off-by: Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>
> >> ---
> >> Changes since v18:
> >>   - Retain NULL vm_offset for protected VMs to avoid host tampering with the
> >>     offset.
> >>   - Moved the flag setting into kvm_timer_init_vm(), where it should have been
> >>     in the first place
> >> ---
> >>   arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c | 12 ++++++++++--
> >>   1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c
> >> index 6ac3321f4c575..226cd5a495c8b 100644
> >> --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c
> >> +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c
> >> @@ -1110,8 +1110,7 @@ void kvm_timer_vcpu_init(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> >>   		timer_context_init(vcpu, i);
> >>   
> >>   	/* Synchronize offsets across timers of a VM if not already provided */
> >> -	if (!vcpu_is_protected(vcpu) &&
> >> -	    !test_bit(KVM_ARCH_FLAG_VM_COUNTER_OFFSET, &vcpu->kvm->arch.flags)) {
> >> +	if (!test_bit(KVM_ARCH_FLAG_VM_COUNTER_OFFSET, &vcpu->kvm->arch.flags)) {
> >>   		timer_set_offset(vcpu_vtimer(vcpu), kvm_phys_timer_read());
> >>   		timer_set_offset(vcpu_ptimer(vcpu), 0);
> >>   	}
> >> @@ -1133,6 +1132,15 @@ void kvm_timer_init_vm(struct kvm *kvm)
> >>   	 */
> >>   	for (int i = 0; i < NR_KVM_TIMERS; i++)
> >>   		kvm->arch.timer_data.ppi[i] = get_vgic_ppi(kvm, default_ppi[i]);
> >> +
> >> +	/*
> >> +	 * Protected VMs don't allow any offset being set from userspace,
> >> +	 * either set via writes to the counters or using the dedicated  
> > This sentence confused me.  Second clause isn't obviously the ways that
> > are being blocked. Maybe shorten to:
> > 
> > 	Protected VMs don't allow the offset to be set from userspace,
> > 	whether via writes to the counters or the dedicated ioctl.  
> 
> LLM suggests:
> 
> 
>     * Protected VMs don't allow userspace to set counter offsets,
>     * either via counter register writes or the dedicated ioctl.

Hmm.  I'd not combine a negative with either.  Still good enough I think!
Our Booker prize may be a way off yet :)

> 
> Have updated the comment.
> 
> Cheers
> Suzuki
> 
> >   
> >> +	 * ioctl. Pretend the offset has already been set and rely on the
> >> +	 * default offset being 0.
> >> +	 */
> >> +	if (kvm_vm_is_protected(kvm))
> >> +		set_bit(KVM_ARCH_FLAG_VM_COUNTER_OFFSET, &kvm->arch.flags);
> >>   }
> >>   
> >>   void kvm_timer_cpu_up(void)  
> >   
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-23 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-20 21:28 [PATCH v19 00/20] KVM: arm64: CCA: Add basic plumbing for Realms Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-20 21:28 ` [PATCH v19 01/20] KVM: arm64: protected VM: Handle user writes to CNTVCT_EL0/CNTPCT_EL0 Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-22 19:25   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-09-22 21:53     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-23 16:48       ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-09-22 22:04     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-23 16:51       ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2026-09-20 21:28 ` [PATCH v19 02/20] KVM: arm64: Disable Steal time accounting for protected guests Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-20 21:28 ` [PATCH v19 03/20] KVM: arm64: Include kvm_emulate.h in kvm/arm_psci.h Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-22 19:32   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-09-20 21:28 ` [PATCH v19 04/20] KVM: arm64: Avoid including linux/kvm_host.h in kvm_pgtable.h Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-20 21:28 ` [PATCH v19 05/20] KVM: arm64: Track the type of VM in kvm_arch Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-22 19:40   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-09-23  6:05   ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-23  6:19     ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-23 10:24       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-23 13:23         ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-23 13:29           ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-23 13:54             ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-23 16:27           ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-23 21:37             ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-24  1:11               ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-24  8:48                 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-24 10:37                   ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-20 21:28 ` [PATCH v19 06/20] KVM: arm64: Refactor the vcpu_load to allow for VM specific callbacks Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-22 19:57   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-09-22 22:09     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-20 21:28 ` [PATCH v19 07/20] KVM: arm64: Add vcpu load/put call backs for flavors Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-22 22:12   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-09-20 21:28 ` [PATCH v19 08/20] KVM: arm64: Reuse kvm_stage2_unmap_range in kvm_unmap_gfn_range Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-22 22:15   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-09-20 21:28 ` [PATCH v19 09/20] KVM: arm64: Add VM specific callback for S2 MMU operations Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-22 22:29   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-09-22 23:21     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-23 16:54       ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-09-24 15:11         ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-20 21:28 ` [PATCH v19 10/20] KVM: arm64: Abstract out memory abort handling Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-22 22:38   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-09-22 23:55     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-20 21:28 ` [PATCH v19 11/20] KVM: arm64: Mandate VGIC v3 for for VMs running on hyp that don't trust the host Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-22 22:42   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-09-22 23:38     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-20 21:28 ` [PATCH v19 12/20] KVM: arm64: CCA: Add a new mode for supporting Realm guests Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-22 22:43   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-09-20 21:28 ` [PATCH v19 13/20] KVM: arm64: CCA: Add VCPU load/put for Realms Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-20 21:28 ` [PATCH v19 14/20] KVM: arm64: CCA: Add bare minimal S2 operations for Realm Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-20 21:28 ` [PATCH v19 15/20] KVM: arm64: CCA: Introduce Realms Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-22 22:49   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-09-20 21:28 ` [PATCH v19 16/20] KVM: arm64: CCA: Don't expose unsupported capabilities for realm guests Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-22 22:53   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-09-20 21:28 ` [PATCH v19 17/20] KVM: arm64: CCA: WARN on injected undef exceptions Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-22 22:54   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-09-20 21:28 ` [PATCH v19 18/20] KVM: arm64: CCA: Support timers in realm RECs Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-20 21:28 ` [PATCH v19 19/20] KVM: arm64: CCA: Expose SVE VL register before VCPU finalization Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-20 21:28 ` [PATCH v19 20/20] KVM: arm64: CCA: Control user register access for Realms Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-24 10:40 ` [PATCH v19 00/20] KVM: arm64: CCA: Add basic plumbing " Gavin Shan
2026-09-24 10:49   ` Suzuki K Poulose

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