From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] random: vDSO: Avoid call to memset() when zeroing reserved in __cvdso_getrandom_data()
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2026 18:44:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260929184415.1920fe91@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260929165939.GA1890629@ax162>
On Tue, 29 Sep 2026 18:59:39 +0200
Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 27, 2026 at 08:02:25AM +0100, David Laight wrote:
> > On Sat, 26 Sep 2026 14:32:49 +0200
> > "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
> > > Do we even need to return a value at all? Might as well just make the
> > > function two lines:
> > >
> > > + for (char *d = dst; size--;)
> > > + *d++ = value;
> >
> > Wouldn't it be better to add a barrier() or similar in there to
> > stop the compiler playing unwanted games>
>
> Wouldn't that just result in the same code generation issue that Jason
> pointed out on my v1?
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/aquyVkdYceiWdckX@zx2c4.com/
I missed that one going past....
You only get 'rep stosq' because the compiler first converts it to memset().
> Maybe that doesn't matter because modern compilers have better options?
A lot of cpu will run the 'rep stosq' very slowly (it has a big fixed cost).
At a guess the loop is 3 clocks (possibly 2; but that usually needs
you to use negative offsets from the end - and gcc doesn't like that).
That is comparable to a mispredicted branch (and you might get two of them).
It still might actually be faster than the 'rep stosq' version!
I suspect the fastest code is to unroll the loop.
xor %eax, %eax
movl %eax, 12(%rbx)
movq %rax, 16(%rbx)
movq %rax, 24(%rbx)
movq %rax, 32(%rbx)
movq %rax, 40(%rbx)
movq %rax, 48(%rbx)
movq %rax, 56(%rbx)
8 clocks on old cpu, 4 on newer ones.
But more likely to be limited be I-cache reads.
If you are going to use 'rep stos' then you might as well write
13 32bit words.
David
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-29 17:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-25 21:46 Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-25 21:53 ` Nick Desaulniers
2026-09-25 21:56 ` Nick Desaulniers
2026-09-25 22:00 ` Nick Desaulniers
2026-09-25 22:19 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-26 6:34 ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-09-26 10:02 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2026-09-26 10:55 ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-09-26 12:29 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2026-09-29 18:24 ` Nick Desaulniers
2026-09-26 12:39 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-26 9:39 ` Andreas Schwab
2026-09-26 12:19 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-26 12:32 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2026-09-26 12:49 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-27 7:02 ` David Laight
2026-09-29 16:59 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-29 17:44 ` David Laight [this message]
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