From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Nam Cao <namcao@linutronix.de>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
Wen Yang <wen.yang@linux.dev>,
Tobias Schaffner <tobias.schaffner@siemens.com>,
Viktor Malik <vmalik@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/15] sched: Add task enqueue/dequeue trace points
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2026 12:29:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261002102939.GB2823843@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d75888885e2c94c1bc717faa864f609c43db874f.camel@redhat.com>
On Fri, Oct 02, 2026 at 09:09:01AM +0200, Gabriele Monaco wrote:
> On Thu, 2026-10-01 at 17:49 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 01, 2026 at 05:20:28PM +0200, Gabriele Monaco wrote:
> > > From: Nam Cao <namcao@linutronix.de>
> > >
> > > Add trace points into enqueue_task() and dequeue_task().
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Nam Cao <namcao@linutronix.de>
> > > Suggested-by: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> >
> > Obviously I don't remember anything at all. But also, you 'forgot' to
> > send me the rest of the patches which might hold a clue. As is I'm
> > clueless as to why we want this, since the Changelog also offers none.
>
> Right..
>
> This commit is part of [1], but borrowed from [2], which is actually more
> interesting to understand why I need those tracepoints.
>
> [2] contains 3 other RV deadline monitors, I should have at least CC'd you in
> [3] and [4].. Essentially the enqueue and dequeue tracepoints are used to:
>
> * model the event from dl_server idle to ready (a new fair task is available)
> * understand when a task is moved to and from another scheduler runqueue
>
> Thanks,
> Gabriele
>
> [1] - https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20261001152042.124445-1-gmonaco@redhat.com
> [2] - https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20260929124908.177676-1-gmonaco@redhat.com
> [3] - https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20260929124908.177676-8-gmonaco@redhat.com
> [4] - https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20260929124908.177676-9-gmonaco@redhat.com
So mostly I flat out out ignore partial series. It means I have to go
dig around to figure out the whole picture, and anything that requires
extra effort goes on the 'later' pile, and you know where that lives.
Now, as to 3,4; I'm confused. If I search 'enqueue' I see there is a
tracepoint attach thingy in the .c file, but I don't see the
corresponding bits in the .dot file. And per my understanding the .c
thing is an artifact of the .dot file.
So what gives?
Also, IMO it would be *much* preferred if the .rst file would not exist.
Just have the graph-easy and the description as a comment in the .dot
file. Then you have the whole thing in one *readable* place.
...insert rant on what a piece of shit rst is here...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-02 10:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-01 15:20 [PATCH v2 00/15] rv: Add support for BPF monitors Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 01/15] sched: Add task enqueue/dequeue trace points Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-01 15:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-02 7:09 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-02 10:29 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-10-02 11:55 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-02 19:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-02 0:42 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 02/15] tools/rv: Skip empty pid error in selftest if command failed Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-02 0:42 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 03/15] rv: Refactor da_trace() functions to get strings internally Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 04/15] rv: Cast result of model_get_*_name() Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 05/15] tools/rv: Move argument parsing from in_kernel to utils Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-02 0:25 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 06/15] tools/build: Add a feature test for bpftool-btf Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 07/15] tools/rv: Implement BPF monitor discovery and listing Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-02 0:42 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 08/15] tools/rv: Implement BPF monitor loading and tracing Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-02 0:43 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 09/15] tools/rv: Copy stripped bpf_atomic.h from libarena Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-02 0:42 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 10/15] tools/rv: Add BPF monitors Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-02 0:43 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 11/15] tools/rv: Define CONFIG_X86_64 statically for " Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 12/15] tools/rv: Add reactors support to " Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-02 0:43 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 13/15] verification/rvgen: Add support for " Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-02 0:25 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 14/15] tools/rv: Add selftest for rv bpf monitors Gabriele Monaco
2026-10-02 0:43 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-01 15:20 ` [PATCH v2 15/15] verification/rvgen: Add selftest for rvgen -b Gabriele Monaco
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