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[82.69.66.36]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ffacd0b85a97d-48db94e3519sm4591765f8f.16.2026.10.09.07.26.27 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 09 Oct 2026 07:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2026 15:26:27 +0100 From: David Laight To: Petr Mladek Cc: helpdesk@kernel.org, Steven Rostedt , John Ogness , Sergey Senozhatsky , Andy Shevchenko , Rasmus Villemoes , Andrew Morton , Linus Torvalds , Geert Uytterhoeven , Jiri Slaby , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Create printk@lists.linux.dev Message-ID: <20261009152627.285d814b@pumpkin> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.1.1 (GTK 3.24.38; arm-unknown-linux-gnueabihf) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 9 Oct 2026 15:27:07 +0200 Petr Mladek wrote: > Address : printk@lists.linux.dev > Description: Linux printk and kernel string formatting development > Owners : pmladek@suse.com, john.ogness@linutronix.de, andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com, rostedt@goodmis.org > Allow HTML : N > Archives : Y > > Reasons for the list and additional info: > > Honestly, the main motivation is to allow sending Sashiko review > for changes in PRINTK and VSPRINTF subsystems as a reply to > the mailing list. There is also the smaller/faster printf code in 'nolibc'. Might be worth mentioning that as well. David > > I have discussed this with John at Plumbers conference. We both > agree that Sashiko review is useful and often has to be addressed. > It is much easier to reply a mail than searching for the review > via the WebUI, copy/paste it to a mail, and comment on it. > > In addition, there are several people interested into printk and > string formatting code. The mailing list would make it easier to get > all interested people notified about new patches and problems > in this area. > > That said, printk and string formatting are related only to some > degree. The printk() code is more about tricks how to store > the messages and show them in various context. While the string > formatting is about tricky buffer manipulation and helpers for > generating a human readable output of various data structures. > > There is only partial overlap of people interested into these > two areas. Each group might deserve its own mailing list. But > I would start simple with a common mailing list. We could always > add another one when needed. > > Best Regards, > Petr