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From: Vladyslav Tymoshchuk <tvlad744@gmail.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com>,
	Srinivas Kandagatla <srini@kernel.org>,
	Luca Weiss <luca.weiss@fairphone.com>,
	Jorijn van der Graaf <jorijnvdgraaf@catcrafts.net>,
	Val Packett <val@packett.cool>,
	Federico Amedeo Izzo <federico@izzo.pro>,
	linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, phone-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	~postmarketos/upstreaming@lists.sr.ht,
	Vladyslav Tymoshchuk <tvlad744@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ASoC: codecs: aw88261: start the amplifier on unmute at trigger time
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2026 13:02:16 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261017100217.1451-1-tvlad744@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bf823f3b-f064-4dd7-acfd-4136efd090de@sirena.org.uk>

On Thu, Oct 15, 2026 at 06:50:39PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> OTOH some hosts presumably do have the clock running earlier and will
> now get delays added in trigger which isn't ideal.  I'm not sure we have
> good solutions here given that this is all system dependent.

Right, v1 moved the whole start into trigger. v2 [1] splits it at the
PLL lock check, the first step that needs the bit clock: PWDN, the
I2S/PLL setup and the boost settings stay in DAPM, and only the lock
check, AMPPD, the SYSST check, the feedback and the unmute run in the
trigger-time unmute, which the mute undoes. That is the split wsa883x
and wsa884x make with GLOBAL_PA_EN (the vendor aw882xx driver also
starts the amplifier from .mute_stream). It does not depend on the
host: one with the clock running from prepare gets the same few steps
in trigger and nothing more.

Measured here with six amplifiers on two I2C buses: the unmute takes
4.3 to 7.3 ms per amplifier (26 to 38 ms for all six), the mute about
4 to 7.5 ms (estimated, see the v2 notes), and the write that starts
the stream went from 52-57 ms with v1 to 28-36 ms. With two
amplifiers, as on the Fairphone 5, it should be a third of that if the
I2C is as fast.

> > The trigger has to be nonatomic for the I2C accesses, which the
> > Qualcomm DPCM links using this codec are.
>
> Are we *sure* there are no other users out there?

In mainline, linux-next and your for-next the only user is the
Fairphone 5 ("fairphone,fp5-sndcard" in sm8250.c), whose DPCM links
qcom_snd_parse_of() makes nonatomic; the driver has no ACPI IDs. The
out-of-tree users I know of (Fairphone 6, OnePlus Pad 3,
motorola-dubai) are Qualcomm too. But v2 no longer relies on that: it
reads substream->pcm->nonatomic in .startup, and on an atomic PCM it
does the whole start from DAPM as now and nothing in the trigger.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/20261016120000.aw88261-trigger-v2-1-tvlad744@gmail.com

Thanks,
Vladyslav

(I used an AI assistant, Claude, for the analysis and to draft this
mail; the tests ran on my device.)

      reply	other threads:[~2026-10-17 10:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-14 16:36 Vladyslav Tymoshchuk
2026-10-15 17:50 ` Mark Brown
2026-10-17 10:02   ` Vladyslav Tymoshchuk [this message]

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