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([187.94.15.112]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 006d021491bc7-701900722d9sm7025347eaf.10.2026.10.19.06.34.57 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 19 Oct 2026 06:34:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Breno Rodrigues Alves To: Heiko Carstens Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet , Andy Whitcroft , Joe Perches , Dwaipayan Ray , Lukas Bulwahn Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/7] scripts: convert remaining Perl utilities in scripts/ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2026 10:34:52 -0300 Message-ID: <20261019133452.4826-1-breno3011alves@gmail.com> X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.43.0 In-Reply-To: <20261019100505.3199861A74+hca@linux.ibm.com> References: <20261019100505.3199861A74+hca@linux.ibm.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Heiko, > That is an odd reason - if I'm not wrong then you have zero upstream > commits, and now are proposing fundamental changes to tools maintained > and used by others? I guess this is 100% LLM work(?). You are right to suspect that I used an LLM as an aid for this series. As required by the kernel policy, I will include an Assisted-by: tag in every commit to make this fully transparent. Regarding my lack of upstream history: that is true, I am a new contributor. However, I fully understand the code I am submitting. The LLM was used to speed up the mechanical translation, but I reviewed every line, checked the logic, and tested the scripts' behavior to ensure 1:1 parity. I am aware that final responsibility for the code is mine. > So an important part of describing any change is *why* you are doing it. > Why are you doing all of these conversions? Some of these scripts have > not seen changes in decades and are likely unused; why do we want to > mess with them now? I would like to clarify the motivation behind the conversion, because I do not think I presented it convincingly in the cover letter. The goal is not simply to "remove Perl", but to reduce the long-term maintenance burden. The kernel already has a clear track record of migrating critical tooling to Python (e.g. get_maintainer and checkpatch). Keeping a residual set of Perl scripts forces maintainers and contributors to deal with two environments and two sets of idioms for the same class of tasks. Unifying that code base in Python simplifies review, testing, and future contributions. Even scripts that have not changed in decades are still part of the tooling ecosystem and may be used by developers; removing them from the Perl equation is a consistency gain. To reduce the risk and demonstrate my commitment, I would like to propose a different path: can we start with a single script? I could prepare a patch focused only on checkstack.pl (or another script you consider a priority), with a detailed justification and a test plan, so you can evaluate the process and quality before we consider the rest of the series. I am happy to adjust the approach in whatever way is most productive for you and the community. Best regards, Breno