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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, vschneid@redhat.com,
	kprateek.nayak@amd.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	jakub@okonski.org, longman@redhat.com, tj@kernel.org,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, mkoutny@suse.com, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	jstultz@google.com, qyousef@layalina.io
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sched/eevdf: Fix sched idle task group preemption
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2026 15:13:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261021131313.GM2823843@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261019182622.1584454-1-vincent.guittot@linaro.org>

On Mon, Oct 19, 2026 at 08:26:22PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> Even with flat hierarchy which puts all runnable tasks in the same cfs rq,
> we need to parse the hierarchy to check for sched_idle task group.

I F'ing hate cgroups :-(


> +static void
> +find_matching_se(struct sched_entity **se, struct sched_entity **pse)
> +{
> +	int se_depth, pse_depth;
> +
> +	/*
> +	 * preemption test can be made between sibling entities who are in the
> +	 * same cfs_rq i.e who have a common parent. Walk up the hierarchy of
> +	 * both tasks until we find their ancestors who are siblings of common
> +	 * parent.
> +	 */
> +
> +	/* First walk up until both entities are at same depth */
> +	se_depth = (*se)->depth;
> +	pse_depth = (*pse)->depth;
> +
> +	while (se_depth > pse_depth) {
> +		se_depth--;
> +		*se = parent_entity(*se);
> +	}
> +
> +	while (pse_depth > se_depth) {
> +		pse_depth--;
> +		*pse = parent_entity(*pse);
> +	}
> +
> +	while (!is_same_group(*se, *pse)) {
> +		*se = parent_entity(*se);
> +		*pse = parent_entity(*pse);
> +	}
> +}
> +
>  static int tg_is_idle(struct task_group *tg)
>  {
>  	return tg->idle > 0;
> @@ -476,6 +508,11 @@ static inline struct sched_entity *parent_entity(struct sched_entity *se)
>  	return NULL;
>  }
>  
> +static inline void
> +find_matching_se(struct sched_entity **se, struct sched_entity **pse)
> +{
> +}
> +
>  static inline int tg_is_idle(struct task_group *tg)
>  {
>  	return 0;
> @@ -10129,7 +10166,35 @@ preempt_sync(struct rq *rq, int wake_flags,
>  }
>  
>  /*
> - * Preempt the current task with a newly woken task if needed:
> + * Preempt an idle entity in favor of a non-idle entity (and don't preempt
> + * in the inverse case).
> + */
> +static inline enum preempt_wakeup_action
> +wakeup_preempt_sched_idle(struct sched_entity *cse, struct sched_entity *pse)
> +{
> +	int cse_is_idle, pse_is_idle;
> +
> +	find_matching_se(&cse, &pse);
> +	WARN_ON_ONCE(!pse);
> +
> +	cse_is_idle = se_is_idle(cse);
> +	pse_is_idle = se_is_idle(pse);
> +
> +	/*
> +	 * Preempt an idle entity in favor of a non-idle entity (and don't preempt
> +	 * in the inverse case).
> +	 */
> +	if (cse_is_idle && !pse_is_idle)
> +		return PREEMPT_WAKEUP_RESCHED;
> +
> +	if (cse_is_idle != pse_is_idle)
> +		return PREEMPT_WAKEUP_NONE;
> +
> +	return PREEMPT_WAKEUP_PICK;
> +}
> +
> +/*
> + * Preempt the current task with a newly woken task if needed.
>   */
>  static void wakeup_preempt_fair(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int wake_flags)
>  {
> @@ -10137,7 +10202,6 @@ static void wakeup_preempt_fair(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int wake_f
>  	struct task_struct *donor = rq->donor;
>  	struct sched_entity *nse, *se = &donor->se, *pse = &p->se;
>  	struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq = &rq->cfs;
> -	int cse_is_idle, pse_is_idle;
>  
>  	/*
>  	 * XXX Getting preempted by higher class, try and find idle CPU?
> @@ -10174,22 +10238,14 @@ static void wakeup_preempt_fair(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int wake_f
>  	if (!sched_feat(WAKEUP_PREEMPTION))
>  		return;
>  
> -	WARN_ON_ONCE(!pse);
> -
> -	cse_is_idle = se_is_idle(se);
> -	pse_is_idle = se_is_idle(pse);
> +	preempt_action = wakeup_preempt_sched_idle(se, pse);
>  
> -	nse = se;
> -	/*
> -	 * Preempt an idle entity in favor of a non-idle entity (and don't preempt
> -	 * in the inverse case).
> -	 */
> -	if (cse_is_idle && !pse_is_idle)
> +	if (preempt_action == PREEMPT_WAKEUP_RESCHED)
>  		goto preempt;
>  
>  	update_curr_fair(rq);
>  
> -	if (cse_is_idle != pse_is_idle)
> +	if (preempt_action == PREEMPT_WAKEUP_NONE)
>  		goto update;
>  
>  	/*

What is the actual semantics of cpu.idle nonsense? Why do we care about
this common ancestor?

Can't we do any of:

 - propagate cfs_rq->idle to all child groups in sched_group_set_idle(); or

 - have se_is_idle() walk up and report true if any of the ancestors is
   idle?

I despise this find_matching_se() thing and was so very glad to have
deleted it.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-10-21 13:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-19 18:26 Vincent Guittot
2026-10-21  7:19 ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-10-21 13:13 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-10-21 13:32   ` Vincent Guittot
2026-10-21 13:41     ` Kayra Cizmeci

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