From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
Cc: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, workflows@vger.kernel.org,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: submitting-patches: Require base tree information
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2026 13:03:19 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261022100319.GD97006@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <88eae369-49ba-4581-beb7-a4ff22f43555@kernel.org>
On Thu, Oct 22, 2026 at 10:29:55AM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 22/10/2026 09:25, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 22, 2026 at 08:57:55AM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> >> On 21/10/2026 18:32, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2026 at 01:55:37PM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> there's no base-commit? Including any historical patch (from
> >>>>> months/years ago), patches with dependencies, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dependency is something else, but for every other patch:
> >>>> 1. For testing/CI: you apply on top of next
> >>>> 2. Every other case the maintainer knows where to apply it, because it
> >>>> is his HEAD of next-branch.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am repeating myself, but I really had no single problem of lack of
> >>>> knowledge where to apply a patch as a maintainer or reviewer of some
> >>>> subsystem, thus maybe I do not understand the actual problem you are
> >>>> experiencing.
> >>>
> >>> When I review patches, I often need to apply them to a tree, mainly to
> >>> see the context, but sometimes also to test them. I have encountered
> >>> many cases where the patch wouldn't apply on the current for-next branch
> >>> of the relevant subsystem. That's often because the patch had
> >>> dependencies. When I'm lucky they are listed manually in the cover
> >>> letter with a link to a branch, but that's far from being the common
> >>> case. I then have to ask the submitter to provide a branch, or enough
> >>> information to recreate a branch. Having base information (base-commit,
> >>> prerequisite-patch-id, and possibly base-tree) would save me quite some
> >>> time.
> >>>
> >>> I understand your concern about maintainers cherry-picking and sometimes
> >>> introducing issues as a result. In that case I also prefer asking the
> >>> submitter to rebase, retest, and resubmit. That's not what I want to use
> >>> base information for, in my case it helps with the review process.
> >>
> >> That's valid and for 95% (guessing the number...) of cases will be
> >> solved by having linux-next as a base, thus requiring the base
> >> information is redundant. It's just linux-next.
> >
> > linux-next changes every day, so "It's just linux-next" is ambiguous.
> >
> > Without base-commit, the workaround ends up being to use the date the
> > patch was sent and various other information to try to guess a base
> > commit. That's time-consuming and unreliable.
>
> No, you just apply to the latest next. You don't guess. We speak about
> the case of reviewer, so person working with the kernel, thus probably
> having not-so-old linux-next available. If the next use as base is old
> it won't help you at all, because you might not even have it in your tree.
I don't test on linux-next, that causes way too much churn. I test
patches I review on top of their respective subsystem's tree, as that's
where they will eventually be applied.
--
Regards,
Laurent Pinchart
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-22 10:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-20 21:22 Eric Biggers
2026-10-20 22:07 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-10-21 6:07 ` Randy Dunlap
2026-10-21 6:35 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-21 6:44 ` Eric Biggers
2026-10-21 6:47 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-21 3:17 ` Weijie Yuan
2026-10-21 6:26 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-21 6:39 ` Eric Biggers
2026-10-21 6:41 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-21 6:49 ` Eric Biggers
2026-10-21 11:55 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-21 15:04 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-10-21 15:49 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-21 16:37 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-10-21 16:32 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-22 6:57 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-22 7:25 ` Eric Biggers
2026-10-22 8:29 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-22 10:03 ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2026-10-21 14:19 ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-10-21 15:59 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-22 10:04 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-10-22 10:13 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
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