From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Daniel Zahka <daniel.zahka@gmail.com>,
Alexander Duyck <alexanderduyck@fb.com>,
kernel-team@meta.com, Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@kernel.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 1/4] eth: mpnic: count packets, bytes, and drops per ring
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2026 11:11:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261026101117.YTmp0eu2@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261020145038.4f7eb295@kernel.org>
On 2026-10-20 14:50:38 [-0700], Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 23:21:55 +0200 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > > > Is there any other driver doing this?
> > > > There is ::get_sset_count() and so on for the per-queue stats.
> > >
> > > You may be mixing up queue stats (netlink) with the old ethtool -S
> > > kitchen sink / garbage dump.
> >
> > The statistics is folded on device-down into a global counter. So on
> > device-up the statistics is still available. At least that is my
> > understanding. This means the per-queue stats are lost and global stats
> > don't match the per queue stats anymore.
>
> Yes, that's intentional and recommended by the docs for queue stats.
I guess this is Documentation/networking/statistics.rst that I need to
study.
> > So if this never happens, it might not be needed to preserve this. That
> > force-RCU might not be needed. This does happen on down and I would
> > assume that the device is no longer processing packets.
>
> The (old) ndo for stats reading runs under RCU, only.
> AI will immediately point that out if we remove the sync.
>
> May I ask why you care? Is there another driver you're trying
> to implement stats in? I'm not sure where you're coming from
> and therefore what to explain to you.
I tried to be useful and do so some reviews and this stats part is what
I did not expect to be "expected". I would expect per-queue stats which
are folded into device stats on query time. Anyway. Let me study what is
recommended before making noise here again.
One last thing: If you replace RCU with SRCU then the logic should
remain the same. On the plus side you would have some domain separation
and the "synchronize" part will not force/ wait for the global grace
period but be limited to the local one.
Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-26 10:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-12 12:04 [PATCH net-next v2 0/4] eth: mpnic: add basic netdev statistics Daniel Zahka
2026-10-12 12:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/4] eth: mpnic: count packets, bytes, and drops per ring Daniel Zahka
2026-10-13 12:05 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-13 12:10 ` Daniel Zahka
2026-10-16 22:09 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-10-19 13:04 ` Daniel Zahka
2026-10-19 21:54 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-10-20 2:05 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-10-20 21:21 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-10-20 21:34 ` Daniel Zahka
2026-10-20 21:50 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-10-26 10:11 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2026-10-26 11:06 ` Daniel Zahka
2026-10-21 8:26 ` Paolo Abeni
2026-10-26 10:13 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-10-12 12:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/4] eth: mpnic: report per-queue stats Daniel Zahka
2026-10-13 12:05 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-13 13:30 ` Daniel Zahka
2026-10-20 2:00 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-10-12 12:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/4] eth: mpnic: count Tx queue stops and wakes Daniel Zahka
2026-10-12 12:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/4] eth: mpnic: count Rx allocation failures Daniel Zahka
2026-10-21 8:40 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/4] eth: mpnic: add basic netdev statistics patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
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